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keesan
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response 29 of 122:
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Dec 15 18:42 UTC 1998 |
I just copied down the suggestions and will check for them at Borders and/or
the library and report back. Celtic, folk-rock and folk, hammered dulcimer,
and Goth (did I miss any?). krj, I appreciate your offer of lending CDs but
would be afraid to damage them (somehow I don't worry about library stuff).
We have some library books due today, so will be going into town.
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mcnally
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response 30 of 122:
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Dec 15 22:28 UTC 1998 |
Judging from the condition of many discs I've checked out of the
Ann Arbor public library you're not the only one who doesn't worry
about scratching them..
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bruin
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response 31 of 122:
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Dec 16 00:07 UTC 1998 |
RE #30 I had the same problem as you with library CD's, mcnally -- they have
been notorious for skipping parts of songs and sometimes getting stuck and
sounding like something from a science fiction movie. Guess there are a lot
of library patrons who don't treat library property with TLC. (Same goes for
all the library books and magazines which have pictures of naked people ripped
out of them.)
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albaugh
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response 32 of 122:
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Dec 16 06:49 UTC 1998 |
Call me an old fogey, but I'd highly recommend the "classic" Blood, Sweat,
and Tears and Chicago albums. The Moody Blues did some nice stuff also.
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krj
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response 33 of 122:
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Dec 16 15:16 UTC 1998 |
OK, you're an old fogey. :) For albaugh: if you like the old BS&T and
Chicago stuff, as my wife and I do, you might want to look for another
jazz-rock band from the same period called Chase, named for its leader
Bill Chase. http://www.great-music.com/chase/chase.htm
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keesan
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response 34 of 122:
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Dec 16 16:00 UTC 1998 |
Well, we got to the library ten minutes before closing, and I tried looking
in the electronic catalog for the various suggested categories and titles.
Found Never a Bride but nothing else except for some plain dulcimer Christmas
music, and they were closing before I figured out how to locate Never a Bride
on the shelf, so I got out some classical music from Iran and some harpsichord
music and some other folk and classical music and went to Borders. First time
I ever actually walked into their music dept. I figured out how to use their
touch screen after a while, and after several tries realized that Rasputina
is a performer and Never a Bride an album (you have to do three separate
searches for song, album, and performer) and guessed at the category (I think
it was rock). They had Rasputina and Dead Can Dance but not Never a Bride
(no longer published, since 1995) and lots of folk music but not the
recommended Scandinavian stuff (only the nonrecommended band). I then figured
out how to use the listening areas (first two were apparently broken) but
could not hear much over the loud and insistent background music. Listened
to a few things randomly in a few categories until the noise drove me away.
Does anyone actually go to Borders to buy classical music? They don't seem
to play anything that is not mainly loud percussion.
I will look for Never a Bride at the library, and perhaps Ken would
not mind taping me a few things, and the library might want to order some
Scandinavian folk music.
We have a book out currently with several pages cut out of it, all of
them seem to be scantily clad women (judging from the smaller BW versions of
the same things near the end). You would think they could have just bought
a Playboy magazine rather than cutting up a photography book.
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bruin
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response 35 of 122:
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Dec 17 00:29 UTC 1998 |
BTW, the 1970's group Chase had only one major hit ("Get It On"), and three
years later Bill Chase and other members of the band were killed in a plane
crash.
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md
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response 36 of 122:
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Dec 17 03:41 UTC 1998 |
Many classical music lovers also love movie music. Bernard
Hermann, John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith. Did you know that
Rudolph Steiner, who composed the famous Gone with the Wind
theme, also composed the famous theme to A Summer Place two
decades later? Did you know that the music for Our Town,
The Red Pony, and Something Wild was all composed by Aaron
Copland? Or that the music to the movie Scott of the Antarctic
was made into a symphony (Sinfonia Antartica) by its composer,
Ralph Vaughn Williams? Leonard Bernstein wrote the music for
On the Waterfront, but *Elmer* Berstein wrote the celebrated
jazz-influenced score to The Man with the Golden Arm (among
many others).
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remmers
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response 37 of 122:
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Dec 17 10:09 UTC 1998 |
(Are you sure it isn't Max Steiner, rather than Rudolph Steiner?)
In point of fact, I'm a classical music lover who also loves
movie music. My favorite film score composers are probably
Bernard Hermann and Nino Rota. Hermann did the scores for
"Citizen Kane", various Hitchcock films ("Vertigo", "Psycho",
"Marnie", etc.), Truffaut's "Fahrenheit 451", Scorsese's
"Taxi Driver". Rota is most famous for "The Godfather" and
his scores for numerous Fellini films.
One of my favorite film scores of all time is Prokofiev's
score for "Alexander Nevsky", later arranged as a suite for
orchestra and chorus.
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davel
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response 38 of 122:
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Dec 17 11:19 UTC 1998 |
Prokofiev also wrote movie music. The one that comes to mind (in the
suite drawn from the score) is _Lieutenant_Kije_. (I've never heard the
original score played, just the suite in various arrangements ...
starting with *playing* it in jr. high school band.)
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md
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response 39 of 122:
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Dec 17 11:31 UTC 1998 |
Yes, Max Steiner is definitely the film composer. Rudolf Steiner,
I believe, was an anarchist theorist. Probably composed atonal
music on the side. Speaking of which, the first atonal score used
in a popular feature film was the one for Fantastic Voyage.
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md
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response 40 of 122:
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Dec 17 12:02 UTC 1998 |
...which, according to IMDB, was composed by Leonard Rosenman, who
also did the music for Rebel without a Cause, Star Trek IV: the
Voyage Home, and many other movies. His most famous scrap of music,
however, is the "doo-doo-doo-doo" Twilight Zone theme.
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albaugh
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response 41 of 122:
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Dec 17 19:26 UTC 1998 |
Well, might as well admit that John Williams' Star Wars scores are heavily
classical in style while blaring out catchy themes.
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md
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response 42 of 122:
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Dec 17 21:02 UTC 1998 |
Not only Star Wars, but also Superman, Raiders of the Lost Ark,
Jaws, ET, Close Encounters, Jurassic Park, and many other
blockbusters I've forgotten, I'm sure. Williams' style always
sounds British to me, like a more tuneful Malcolm Arnold. Even
his earliest "Cowboys" music, when he was still Johnnie Williams,
has this quality.
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coyote
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response 43 of 122:
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Dec 17 23:09 UTC 1998 |
Re 36:
To add even more to the list, the minimalist Michael Nyman has created
"The Piano Concerto" out of the theme from the movie "The Piano". Aram
Khatchaturian also composed some music for movies, such as "The Battle of
Stalingrad" (Russian, I'm guessing around the same time as Alexander Nevsky,
but I've never seen it. The music is great, though, if you like
Khatchaturian.)
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md
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response 44 of 122:
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Dec 18 01:43 UTC 1998 |
This is drifty, but I just found out that Margaret Hamilton was
in *two* of the three Copland-scored movies mentioned above.
(She wasn't in Something Wild, not surprisingly.) She looked
a little bit like Aaron Copland. Hmmm....
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remmers
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response 45 of 122:
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Dec 18 13:07 UTC 1998 |
Add Ennio Morricone to my list of favorite film composers. He did
the score for Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the West" and
other spaghetti westerns. More recently he's been working with
David Lynch, most notably the wonderful music for the "Twin Peaks"
TV series.
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remmers
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response 46 of 122:
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Dec 18 21:39 UTC 1998 |
Oops, faulty memory again - I'm merging two different people into one.
The "Twin Peaks" composer isn't Morricone, it's Angelo Badelemati
(spelling probably mangled). So count both of those dudes as among my
favorites.
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mcnally
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response 47 of 122:
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Dec 18 23:40 UTC 1998 |
Badalamenti, I think..
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lumen
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response 48 of 122:
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Dec 19 04:57 UTC 1998 |
Don't forget to check out the TV/movie soundtracks item while you're on this
thread.
Nino Rota is nice. I learned "Love Theme From The Godfather" for classical
guitar and fell in love with it before I heard the actual recording, which
features a mandolin instrumentation. A mandolin has to be played
differently-- the strings fade away quickly when strummed or plucked, and
therefore must be played repeatedly to compensate for lack of reverb. So the
piece had a slightly different flavor on a classical guitar-- I have to use
an occasional vibrato, especially on long notes, instead of the trill-like
manner in which the mandolin is played. It's still nice.
Speaking of classical guitars and classical music and rock n' roll, the
former leader of the band Deep Purple plays classical guitar now (but no
lute.)
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davel
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response 49 of 122:
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Dec 19 12:04 UTC 1998 |
(One of Deep Purple's early albums had rock versions of parts of Tchaikovsky's
Romeo & Juliet and of a Beethoven symphony.)
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cyklone
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response 50 of 122:
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Dec 19 14:35 UTC 1998 |
Ritchie Blackmore was into classical music even during Deep Purple's early
days. I remember reading an interview in which he pointed out that one of the
chord progressions used in a DP song was lifted from Bach.
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tpryan
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response 51 of 122:
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Dec 19 19:16 UTC 1998 |
re 49: ?"Music for two unfreindly groups of instruments"?
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jmm
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response 52 of 122:
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Dec 20 23:21 UTC 1998 |
Try Loreena McKennet. Contemporary folk, magical stuff. I got hooked on her
background music for "The Burning Times." She has a new tape out. Canadian,
based in Stratford.
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mcnally
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response 53 of 122:
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Dec 21 04:43 UTC 1998 |
A lot of people seem to like her but at least the singles I've heard
have really turned me off. Judging by the bland magicky-fantasy lyrics
I've heard I expect her to start singing about hobbits at any minute..
Given that that's my big reservation, should I steer clear or have I
formed an incorrect impression based on the few songs one might hear
on the radio (in particular the dance re-mix of "The Mummer's Dance",
which gets played most often, really turns me off (not necessarily the
music or vocals but mostly the lyrics, though the music doesn't do much
for me either..)
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