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naftee
response 29 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 22:17 UTC 2004

But by only allowing a whole conference, you're also warranting the deletion
of conferences in their entirety.  A contradiction on your behalf.
jp2
response 30 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 22:39 UTC 2004

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gull
response 31 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 23:32 UTC 2004

Re resp:28: How likely do you think your hypothetical situation is?  And 
how would it be any worse than someone just posting a bunch of flames in 
agora and leaving them there?  It's not as if that's never happened.
gelinas
response 32 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 23:55 UTC 2004

(I've seen such behaviour before.  The 'victims' quickly 1) remove their
now-contextless comments and 2) learn to think before responding.  Sometimes,
it takes a few iterations for 2) to occur.)
gull
response 33 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 01:10 UTC 2004

That doesn't seem like such a terrible outcome. ;>
keesan
response 34 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 01:17 UTC 2004

People can't scribble what other people quoted from their responses, so
perhaps we should all start each response by quoting the previous one?
gelinas
response 35 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 01:18 UTC 2004

The _real_ fun begins when people can edit their past responses: put up some
flame-bait, garner a few flames, then switch the bait to something completely
innocuous.  The learning is a bit faster in those situations, I think.

'Twas this scenario that garnered so much opposition during the censored-log
debate.
anderyn
response 36 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 02:36 UTC 2004

Richard, I think that you see Grex in a very different light than I do. I
NEVER have thought of it as "publishing" my words. I felt that I was talking
in a limited medium that would eventually be erased and forgotten.
krj
response 37 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 03:06 UTC 2004

Hoo boy.
richard
response 38 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 03:51 UTC 2004

#37...but twila, how did you think that when grex doesn't erase its confs.
even when a conf is closed and archived, it is still kept read-only.  The only
way whole confs would get erased under current setup is if grex is taken
down completely, or if there is some disastrous disk failure and there are
no backups to restore anything.  Otherwise these conferences should be around
for anyone to read for years and years to come, as long as there is a grex.
I think that is part of JEP's concern actually, although I think the odds of
his son years from now finding his posts in some old archived grex conf to
be remote enough that I don't think his concern is all that warranted.
jaklumen
response 39 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 10:06 UTC 2004

resp:37 Yeah, I'll second that.
tod
response 40 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 15:00 UTC 2004

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anderyn
response 41 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 15:50 UTC 2004

I suppose that I should have known this, but I didn't. I really didn't know
that the old agoras weren't erased at some point. I did know that while the
agoras were active that they could be read by anyone who accessed grex, but
that's different from having them there forever and ever amen. 
willcome
response 42 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 15:52 UTC 2004

Yeah.

God bless.
naftee
response 43 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:47 UTC 2004

Jesus lives!
willcome
response 44 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:59 UTC 2004

Re. 42:  What is God?
naftee
response 45 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 23:17 UTC 2004

The Virgin Mary had three kids.
happyboy
response 46 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 01:12 UTC 2004

larry, curley, and moe!
remmers
response 47 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 15:46 UTC 2004

<donning voteadm hat...>

I've posted a summary of the rules regarding voting in item 75,
response 179 (resp:75,179).  The earliest voting could begin,
should Colleen elect to bring it to a vote, is January 23.
cmcgee
response 48 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 15:51 UTC 2004

Actually, I don't think I'll be bringing this to a vote.  We seem to have had
sufficient cooling off time, and I don't think anyone is feeling overwhelmed
and rushed any more.

Often it is useful to explicitly state that once of your choices is "Do
Nothing".
albaugh
response 49 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 18:49 UTC 2004

I'm afraid that *this* proposal was a non-starter from the beginning.  Even
if it has passed, it would have no effect on the 2 proposals that were already
brough forth.  And I think this was just a bad idea, period.
other
response 50 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 17:08 UTC 2004

If the proposal is killed, the item should be frozen to signify it 
(with a final response declaring it killed).

Discussion can continue in another item.
remmers
response 51 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 14:02 UTC 2004

I don't see a need for that, but it's up to cmcgee in any case.
bhelliom
response 52 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 21:53 UTC 2004

Don't I wish this would go away until people got some sense.  Grex has 
become a black hole of nagativity, which this whole issue over 
scribbled items is a symptom, not a cause.  It's been building around 
here for months, maybe no one else has noticed.  It's why I don't 
really post much right now, other than the fact that I just moved and 
had no computer access at the new place for a couple of weeks.
tod
response 53 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 21:56 UTC 2004

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