response 28 of 56:

Feb 7 19:20 UTC 2002

resp:25 I think that may have been what I was trying to say.  Very well 
put.  I just don't think people should be manipulated.  And that goes 
for people you know as well as those you've just met, especially in the 
area of sex and regardless of whether its BDSM or eating peanut butter 
between their toes.  You should at least talk about it and find out WHY 
they don't want to.  Then you can make in roads towards settling their 
concerns.  If that doesn't help, give up and do something else.  That's 
my opinion.

response 30 of 56:

Feb 8 16:54 UTC 2002

        It makes sense, but it's ... outside my personal experience.  Maybe
it has something to do with the people I've been with, but then again, it's
been fairly consistent with all of them.

        I don't know about the odds of two people being horny at the same time,
but the odds of two people being convincable if their partner seems to be so,
seems to be fairly high.  But, in thinking about it, it's difficult to be
absolutely sure, since many people are uncomfortable expressing sexual
interest in clear terms, and it's less common for one person to really clearly
initiate things in my book.  But then, perhaps I've had a long string of
nymphomaniacs.  I don't know.

response 32 of 56:

Feb 8 20:37 UTC 2002

my partners not always horny at the same time i am, but i know how to change
that.

response 34 of 56:

Feb 8 23:35 UTC 2002

maybe.

response 36 of 56:

Feb 9 22:41 UTC 2002

are you callin my man a ho?!?

response 38 of 56:

Feb 10 19:12 UTC 2002

<laughs> Jon is fairly easy to swing over, too, oval.  It has a lot to 
do with the way men are wired.  If men were wired the way women are 
there would be lots less children and the human race would be a dying 
breed.

response 40 of 56:

Feb 11 04:29 UTC 2002

        There are some pretty noticeable biological differences;  the
development of the visual cortex, the development of the corpus callosum, the
flexibility and load-bearing characteristics of the spine.  Male children and
female children - long before they're capable of language - react differently
to stress.

        And yet a lot of things that we associate with male or female roles
are reversed in, say, traditional Iranian culture.

        Hmm.

        Okay, no point there. ;)

        Whatever the cause is, if you're a "pursuer" then you're used to
motivating yourself, and it usually isn't a factor.  If you're "pursued", one
of the indirect choices you have is when and where, and you're used to
unmotivating yourself.

        The real fun starts when people realise the game can be reversed. ;)

response 42 of 56:

Feb 11 18:32 UTC 2002

Not that I would WANT it that way.  I'm rather happy with the way 
males and females dovetail, thanks.

response 44 of 56:

Feb 11 20:19 UTC 2002

dude, it depends on the body type.
warning, this is quite base and graphic.
i've had the disctinct pleasure to sample a fair number of the fairer
sexes hospitality, and well, i've got some field conclusions here.
types of women: nervious and tight:
this is your classic up tight prude, or even some of the more pragmatic
or party girlies out there, but for some reason she's had bas sexual experinces
(tendency to emit female ejaculate, or still suffering guilt/shame reactions)
or outright sexual abuse. barring medical psychological conditions she can be
dry, or tight from clencing up and is generally more of a foreplay/backrub
gal. sometimes it's one of the rare women wired wrong (i.e. certian eroginus
zones, well, arn't) example was a gf i had who's vagina wasn't sensative at
all. it just did nothing, but her back and breasts were extra wired. she LOVED
foreplay and backrubs, and intercourse was...well..pointless for her. type I 

willing but hard to get ready: this is your average unmolsted or fairly well
adjusted teenage girl. she's ready and willing, but it can take a bit for her
to get relaxed and or moist enough for da happy groove and generally is your
average girlie. not much to be said except proceede with caution and don't ruin
'er. type II

built for scruping: these are my personal favourites: always moist, never get's
sore, always ready for more. these are the people that could make ron jeremy
beg for a breather.  gods i do love them so.  i tell you they're men with
vaginas type III

noteble things of each?
type I: usually very hard to orgasim, orgasims are "forced" because of
psychological issues, usually becomes sore VERY quickly either due to lack of
lubrication or being overly tight. sometimes it's because they require
thearapy.. type II: can become one of the other two types depending on
experinces, and physiology type III: dear gods if your a guy i hope you marry
one like this if you can keep up:) trouble is they usually tend to be
sensualists and VERY high maintinence. hope you've got more to offer than your
bedroom skills, or she'll be  moving on sooner or later

response 46 of 56:

Feb 11 23:59 UTC 2002

which, oddly enough was my point. generally everything except vaginal
conditions is sociologically affected, and even that can be
changed by mood, etc.

response 48 of 56:

Feb 12 01:03 UTC 2002

It's funny....I think that all of the women that I've discussed sex with
have all been (according to Greg's scale) Type II, (with the notable
exception of one who was molsested as a child, and incredibaly self concious
to boot).  What I've found is that most women can be any type....just
depending on her mood, who's she's with, where she is in her period cycle
(not a joke...it can make a huge difference), what's going on around here,
and whether or not it's Tuesday.

On the other hand, most of the women that I know seem to buck the normal
sexual ideas of women.  Enjoyment of visual porn, easily aroused (most of
the time), willing to try new and exciting things...all of that and more! 
*grin*  

Whoops....I mistyped...I meant to say Type III.  (sorry...I wasn't going
back to fix it)

response 50 of 56:

Feb 12 02:57 UTC 2002

        Interesting segueue about female ejaculation;  it has really bothered
some people I've been with.  They also tend to be the "noah and the flood"
type though, and it's hard to tell if it's the ejaculation, or of it's the
fact that any good sex tends to be really messy that they're worked up about.

        I'd disagree with one part of #44:  it's not the physiology, it's the
psychology that determines if someone's able to enjoy themselves.  Well,
barring bad breast enlargement or reduction surgery (and that really does get
a bit strange at time, remembering that only one is sensitive).  There is one
point of physiology that I haven't seen studied, though, that I've made
informal conclusions about ... the distance between the clitoris and vagina
seems to make a real difference in the woman's attitude about penetration.
The closer it is, the more enthusiasm there is for penetration over oral sex,
and the further, the reverse.  Barring the whole self-conscious factor, that
is.

response 52 of 56:

Feb 12 06:36 UTC 2002

Gee, I wonder why?  :)

It's funny how juices flow.  Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, they
just don't flow as much, while others it seems like no matter what you do,
they're dripping down your legs.  I think that it just kind of depends on
physical things, like how hydrated you are.  That was a big problem for me
for awhile, before I went on thyroid medicine.  When you have a low thyroid
problem, you have a hard time staying hydrated, and that affects
*everything*.  Once I was on drugs, problem cleared up.  I've also noticed
that drinking more water vs. soda really helps too.  (My sister in law also
reported the same thing when she went on thyroid medicine...not that I had
really wanted to hear about her and my brother's sex life :)

John, On your "study" of distance between clitoris and vagina: Have you any
guesses on distances?  For instance, how far is "close" and how far is
"far\"?  Idle curiousity, really :)