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Grex > Coop9 > #55: Motion: To allow unregistered reading of all conferences | |
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ryan1
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response 275 of 367:
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Mar 11 02:15 UTC 1997 |
I don't think Richard should be telling people how they should vote.
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dpc
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response 276 of 367:
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Mar 11 04:06 UTC 1997 |
I think we should respect the good judgment of Grex' President for Life
in Alternate Years. Vote No! (Unpaid political announcement from the
Semi-Permeable Membrane Caucus)
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babozita
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response 277 of 367:
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Mar 11 13:25 UTC 1997 |
I don't think David should be telling people how they should vote.
*giggle*
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ryan1
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response 278 of 367:
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Mar 11 15:18 UTC 1997 |
Paul, there is a difference between Richard's and David's response.
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srw
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response 279 of 367:
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Mar 11 21:56 UTC 1997 |
The only difference is that one wants her to change and one doesn't.
In my opinion, dpc's comments are disingenuous because of his bias.
I think Babozita was pointing that out in his giggly way.
Valerie is perfectly capable of making up her own mind how to vote, but
I was certainly curious to know why she changed her mind. Now that I
know i am a bit disappointed. I am inclined to believe that a compromise
will fail, because Valerie's own compromise failed. I would (like
Valerie) prefer a compromise to Mary's proposal. I am voting for Mary's
exactly for the reasons Richard laid out. If it fails we will probably
have no unregistered reading at all.
This is ironic, that two camps that favor unregistered reading can't
agree on a proposal that they can both vote for. I oppose this irony by
voting for a second-best solution. I will work hard to see a compromise
solution replace the one we are voting for today, whether this one pases
or not.
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mary
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response 280 of 367:
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Mar 12 01:35 UTC 1997 |
We *really* need to move beyond this issue.
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richard
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response 281 of 367:
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Mar 12 02:47 UTC 1997 |
**richard thinks valerie is letting her emotional response to the
ramifications of this issue cloud her judgement, and she should change her
vote back**
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valerie
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response 282 of 367:
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Mar 12 06:11 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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babozita
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response 283 of 367:
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Mar 12 15:27 UTC 1997 |
The president has asked me to cool it on the mudslinging. I had left co-op
anyhow, but I came back to apologize. I've had strep throat since Friday,
combined with a stomach flu and a 102-degree fever. While that isn't an
excuse, some of the inflammatory posts were made during said fever. Valerie
(my wife, not the president) and Jenna can both attest that I haven't quite
been myself emotionally. I apologize for any discomfort that I may have
caused.
I never said anything I didn't mean, but I chose langauge and styles that were
inappropriate to this forum, at this time.
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cmcgee
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response 284 of 367:
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Mar 12 16:13 UTC 1997 |
Thank you Paul!
I too changed my vote from no to yes.
If Mary's proposal fails, and we cannot find a workable compromise, then
nothing on Grex will be available to unregistered people.
If Mary's proposal passes, and none of the compromises have majority
support, we will still have this policy in place.
It is not clear to me that any compromise is going to get majority
support, and since I really prefer that we allow unregistered reading, I
want this option available.
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mary
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response 285 of 367:
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Mar 12 23:05 UTC 1997 |
I grew up in a family that tended to disagree with enthusiasm.
No problem here. I hope you feel better soon, Paul.
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jenna
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response 286 of 367:
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Mar 13 03:26 UTC 1997 |
I still hope Mary's propoal fail. I'm a fan of free choice and it doesn't
allow that.
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remmers
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response 287 of 367:
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Mar 13 05:20 UTC 1997 |
Results are as follows: 40 voting members in good standing cast
ballots.
Yes 21
No 19
In addition, 72 non-members voted. The results here (which don't
count towards determining the outcome) are
Yes 40
No 32
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robh
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response 288 of 367:
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Mar 13 08:38 UTC 1997 |
Fair enough. I'll have my resignation ready in the afternoon.
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ladymoon
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response 289 of 367:
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Mar 13 12:23 UTC 1997 |
I hope you, cmcgee, and you valerie are happy! Hads you two not switched your
votes, this thing would be DEAD.
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ryan1
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response 290 of 367:
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Mar 13 15:09 UTC 1997 |
I think it is an unfair double standard that the Staff conference can remain
closed to unregistered reaading, however every single
other conference must be open.
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babozita
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response 291 of 367:
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Mar 13 15:52 UTC 1997 |
*smiles at Ryan* I was advised by one staffer that I was being discussed in
the Staff conference about a year ago. That statement was confirmed, in very
roundabout ways, by two other staffers and outrightly denied by yet two other
staffers. So I heartily agree with you, and have said so before. I'm told 90%
of the staff conference is so boring that it would be torture for anyone else
to HAVE to read it, though. =}
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robh
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response 292 of 367:
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Mar 13 16:28 UTC 1997 |
Re 289 - To be technical, *one* switched vote would have defeated
this motion, since "majority" means "more than half", not "half or
more". Look it up in your Funk and Wagnalls. >8)
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richard
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response 293 of 367:
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Mar 13 16:45 UTC 1997 |
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richard
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response 294 of 367:
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Mar 13 16:59 UTC 1997 |
AndValerie saves the day! I felt sure that if she hadnt changedher vote
back, this would have been a tie. I predicted this outcome om the nail:
#106 of 293: by Richard J. Wallner (richard) on Sun, Feb 23, 1997 (18:15):
Mary, Peter, Jeff, John, SCG, and SRW all voted against the previous
proposal
but will vote yes for Mary's. Basede on the previous vote of 16 to 24,
if
noone else changes their mind, the vote would be 21 yes 19 no.
The votes are there.
Grex politics arent that hard to figureout :) I hope Jan and/or SRW can
turn unregistered reading on today. May as well try it out for a while
before voting on thenext proposals. So we'llhaveperspective. Flip the
switch!
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robh
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response 295 of 367:
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Mar 13 17:15 UTC 1997 |
"Flip the switch", what an appropriate phrase for it. >8)
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babozita
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response 296 of 367:
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Mar 13 18:29 UTC 1997 |
siwtch, bird, they're both nouns
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cmcgee
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response 297 of 367:
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Mar 13 18:35 UTC 1997 |
I would hope, that before "flipping the switch", that the designers of
Backtalk wait for the outcome of the currently-in-process compromise. I see
no benefit in offending people unnecessarily by hasty implementation of
something that might last only 15-20 days.
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rcurl
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response 298 of 367:
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Mar 13 18:49 UTC 1997 |
Uh....is that a motion? I see no harm in having it on, even if only to
have a couple of weeks of experience with it. It is not hasty to implement
a policy when the policy is adopted. Besides, any chance to gain
experience, rather than just all the theory we have had, is worthwhile.
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dpc
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response 299 of 367:
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Mar 13 21:53 UTC 1997 |
I must point out that the vote switches occurred during the improperly-
extended period of voting, confirmed by the switchers. If the vote
had ended when it should have, the motion would have been defeated.
Unbelievable!
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