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richard
response 270 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:41 UTC 2006

Is a guy who sells his sperm to a sperm bank for money any different than a
woman who takes money for her "bodily services"?
tod
response 271 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:44 UTC 2006

re #270
Would you rather spooge into a test tube or go down on Karl Rove, richard?
edina
response 272 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:52 UTC 2006

I my opinion, yes.  Richard, look, I know you are all for personal freedom
and what have you, but sometimes I don't think you really look at the
repercussions or practicalities of that.

You might want to ask a young black prostitute (preferably when her pimp isn't
lurking about) if she feels she has any control over her body.
tod
response 273 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:53 UTC 2006

Why does she have to be black?
edina
response 274 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:53 UTC 2006

Because whenever I think of a pimp I think of Snoop Dogg in "Starsky and
Hutch".
tod
response 275 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:58 UTC 2006

I asked about the prostitute being black.  Not why you think of a black pimp.
Why does the prostitute have to be black for richard to get an idea?
edina
response 276 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:59 UTC 2006

Point taken.  I'll rephrase to say "the young prostitute" without using race.
richard
response 277 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:05 UTC 2006

edina I know there are repercussions and practicalities, I just believe that
each of us has the right to make our own personal decisions.  If you want to
have sex for money, it is your body and should be your decision.  Not mine,
or the government's, or anyone else's.  Your decision.
tod
response 278 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:13 UTC 2006

And how would you be able to prove that a person isn't forced into that trade?
richard
response 279 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:18 UTC 2006

the government doesn't need nor should it be the arbiter of morality wherever
possible.  I would not advise anyone to get an abortion, but neither do I
think the government should be making those decisions for people who have
their own minds and their own free wills.  I would not advise anyone to become
a prostitute, but I do not think it is the place of the government to make
such a decision for a consenting adult.

repercussions and practicalities are up to individuals to consider, not up
to the government.
marcvh
response 280 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:18 UTC 2006

How do you prove that any person doing any job isn't forced into it?
tod
response 281 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:34 UTC 2006

Should we legalize CD bootleg sales and stock market fraud while we're at it?
rcurl
response 282 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 00:31 UTC 2006

Re #269: we are NOT talking about persons forced into prostitution. That is
a crime. We are talking about persons that elect prostitution as a business
or hobby.

Re #278: ask them?
johnnie
response 283 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 00:42 UTC 2006

>We are talking about persons that elect prostitution as a business
>or hobby.

I don't know that prostitution can ever be called a "hobby".  

>Re #278: ask them?

What makes you think they'd tell the truth?
rcurl
response 284 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 03:54 UTC 2006

Why do you think they wouldn't?
tod
response 285 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 06:11 UTC 2006

re #283
 I don't know that prostitution can ever be called a "hobby".
That would make "losses" tax deductible!
klg
response 286 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 11:34 UTC 2006

(Whoa!!  RW is now a libertarian.  Way to go!  No more of that taxes 
and government programs b.s.  You go, Ayn Rand!!)
johnnie
response 287 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 13:47 UTC 2006

>Why do you think they wouldn't?

Uh, because the guys forcing them to fuck strange men for cash might,
you know, kill them?  
jep
response 288 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 14:15 UTC 2006

I don't mind prostitution if it's free and voluntary, consensual, safe 
for both parties, and doesn't create a public health hazard.  I don't 
care how a lady decides a guy is nice enough to have sex with.  It 
makes no difference to me if he takes her to a nice dinner and gives 
her a nice box of candy, or woos her with a card engraved with 
beautiful poetry such as: "This bill is legal tender for all debts, 
public and private".

I'm against prostitution solely because I don't think it works like 
that for most prostitutes in the real world.  I'm against slavery, 
ruined lives and ruined people, stuff like that.
keesan
response 289 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 15:34 UTC 2006

The problem with screening for venereal diseases is that, at least with AIDS,
there is a period (6 months?) when you can have the disease but it is not
caught by the test.  Unless they have really improved the test.  And even if
the women selling sex are screened, the men buying it usually are not, and
AIDS is not yet curable.   Back in the 19th century when prostitution was
common lots of men got diseases and passed them to other prostitutes, and to
wives.
richard
response 290 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 16:00 UTC 2006

re #288 its not a matter of being "for" or "against" prostitution.  Thinking
it should be legal does not mean you are "for" it.  Just as with abortion,
it just means you think such things need not be regulated by government.
,
remmers
response 291 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 16:42 UTC 2006

No, the intersection of things that are "legal" and things that are
"regulated by the government" is non-empty.
jep
response 292 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 16:48 UTC 2006

Yes, Richard, I am familiar with the distinction.

There are things I think should be legal, but am not interested in 
using myself, such as tobacco, crossbows and absentee ballots.

There are things which should be legal and which I use myself, such as 
bicycles, the Internet and baking soda.

There are things which should not be legal, and which neither I nor 
anyone else should do/use/have, such as slaves, DDT and the electric 
chair.

I don't care to venture examples of anything I think should not be 
legal, but which I do, have, or use myself.
klg
response 293 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 17:16 UTC 2006

(A lot of people have died because of failure to use DDT & the electric 
chair.)
jep
response 294 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 17:40 UTC 2006

(Do you think you should have an electric chair at home in case you 
need it?  How about me?  And everyone else?)
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