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tod
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response 269 of 342:
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Feb 20 18:46 UTC 2006 |
I like when they drive the car into the tree. I can relate to such extreme
measures for an alibi.
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richard
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response 270 of 342:
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Feb 20 19:10 UTC 2006 |
re #260 I thought the two main characters in Sideways were both
sympathetic and likeable. These are two guys who are swallowed up in
their own neuroses (one guy has an inferiority complex, the other is a
narcissist) and because of that may always ultimately fail at every
relationship they have. By the end of the movie, you know Haden
Church's impending marriage is never going to last because his
narcissism will never allow him to be faithful. Giamatti's character's
relationship with the Virginia Madsen character probably won't last
either, because he-- like his friend-- is too self obsessed, albeit in
a different way.
But there is one relationship which will not fail, which has not
failed, and that is the one they have with each other. When we first
see Haden Church's character, he is in a roomful of his soon-to-be
inlaws and he lights up when he sees Giammati's character. You can
sense immediately that he's closer to this guy than he is to his
fiancee or to anybody else in that room. There is a great deal of
tenderness in their relationship, you can see they really care for each
other, and if that doesn't make those characters sympathetic, what
will? No matter what happens in their lives, even if they get
swallowed up in their neuroses, they will always have each other.
There is an allegory in the wine storyline, because wine changes with
age, gets better. The Giammati character relates to wine, because
while he has his inferiority complex and failed at his first marriage,
he hopes that he-- like wine-- can and will get better with age.
There's a scene where he describes why Pinot Noires are his favorite,
because pinot noir grapes have a difficult early life and require a
great deal of caring, and if they survive, end up making great wine.
Pinot Noir grapes, he also points out, have a limited timespan where
they are of great quality, before they go downhill. Again an allegory
for a man in a middle age crisis wondering if he'll ever get in another
relationship before his time passes and he's aged too much and goes
downhill.
There's a sad scene where the Haden Church character, having had the
crap kicked out of him by one girl, picks up a waitress in a restaurant
almost immediately, and he tells Giamatti that he isn't going to hang
out with him, that he's going to wait for her to get off work. There's
a sadness in Giamatti's eyes as Haden Church's character says, "I have
to do what I have to do" His character is trapped in his neuroses and
will never escape from it.
The movie ends on a hopeful note because we see Giamatti's character
going back to Madsen's apartment and knocking on the door. A poignant
moment because it signals that maybe, just maybe, he will escape his
neuroses and be able to commit to another person again. Maybe, like a
good pinot noir grape, his time has come.
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edina
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response 271 of 342:
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Feb 20 19:12 UTC 2006 |
Or, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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richard
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response 272 of 342:
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Feb 20 20:06 UTC 2006 |
ELECTION-- This is another really good movie I just watched on dvd.
Matthew Broderick plays a high school teacher having a midlife crisis.
He's the advisor to the student council and has to monitor the upcoming
elections. The problem is he can't stand the girl running for
president, a conceited type-A resume-obsessed student played by Reese
Witherspoon. So he decides he wants her to lose, and secretly recruits
another student, the airhead former star quarterback, to run against
her. Then this guy's lesbian sister also decides to run, on
an "abolish the student council" platform. As the election nears, and
Broderick's feud with Witherspoon's character gets worse, he slowly
cracks up. This is a terrific "dark comedy", and Broderick and
Witherspoon-- who alternate narrating-- create memorable characters.
Witherspoon deserved a nomination for this in fact, but it came out too
early in the year. I liked the final scene, which takes place a couple
of years after the "election, when Broderick's character-- having had
his life utterly destroyed by the earlier events, is in Washington D.C.
as a tourist, and sees Witherspoon getting into a limo with a
congressman, and he chucks his soda cup at the back window as they
drive off.
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edina
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response 273 of 342:
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Feb 20 20:07 UTC 2006 |
Are you on an Alexander Payne kick?
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richard
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response 274 of 342:
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Feb 20 20:28 UTC 2006 |
re #273 yes! I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. I
rented "Election" because Alexander Payne wrote it, he is the same guy
who wrote "Sideways". Good for you Edina, you know your screenwriters.
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richard
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response 275 of 342:
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Feb 20 20:29 UTC 2006 |
Payne also wrote "About Schmidt", another terrific "dark comedy"
featuring Jack Nicholson in a "late life crisis"
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edina
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response 276 of 342:
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Feb 20 22:15 UTC 2006 |
He also directed them and is/was married to Sandra Oh, who is in "Sideways".
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remmers
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response 277 of 342:
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Feb 21 14:35 UTC 2006 |
Interesting insights in #270.
I recently acquired Federico Fellini's 1960 film "La Dolce Vita" on DVD.
Among the special features is an appreciative introduction to the film
delivered by (guess who!) Alexander Payne, who says that "La Dolce Vita"
was an important influence on his own work. I can see that. Like the
Fellini film, "Sideways" and especially "About Schmidt" are rather
episodic in structure, and both films describe a personal journey by a
flawed and somewhat lost and insecure protagonist.
(Quick, somebody change the subject before this item is taken over by
esoteric film buffs! ;-)
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nharmon
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response 278 of 342:
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Feb 21 14:49 UTC 2006 |
My wife and I watched "Garden State" over the weekend. We both enjoyed it.
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tod
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response 279 of 342:
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Feb 21 16:57 UTC 2006 |
re #277
Under the Tuscan Sun had some subtle references to that movie.
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edina
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response 280 of 342:
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Feb 21 18:36 UTC 2006 |
I *love* "Under the Tuscan Sun".
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jadecat
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response 281 of 342:
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Feb 21 19:03 UTC 2006 |
Watched "The Cell" over the weekend. The hubby said it was an art
director's movie... and he was right. The concept of entering another's
mind was interesting, the plot- eh, acting... well it wasn't horrible.
The visuals? Absolutely stunning! So for that I give it a B-.
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tod
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response 282 of 342:
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Feb 21 19:07 UTC 2006 |
I think it should've been named "Menopause with Vodka Marinara"
I didn't like the WASP broad digging into everyone's private business. Had
she been a loyal neighbor, she would have put the father of Chiara into the
loop. Instead, she meddled and lied. No, no..I didn't like that movie.
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tod
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response 283 of 342:
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Feb 21 19:08 UTC 2006 |
re #281 slipped
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mcnally
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response 284 of 342:
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Feb 21 20:13 UTC 2006 |
re #279:
> Under the Tuscan Sun had some subtle references to that movie.
"subtle references"? It's mentioned several times by name. One of
the characters re-enacts a scene from the earlier movie, for goodness'
sake. What part of that is "subtle"?
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tod
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response 285 of 342:
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Feb 21 20:20 UTC 2006 |
The subtleties(sp?) are the bored socialite and the "serious" writer/deep
thinker similarities in both films. The sad difference is that nobody dies
in the end of Tuscan Sun. I'd had preferred if they all went off a cliff in
Marcello's Porsche.
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albaugh
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response 286 of 342:
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Feb 21 20:48 UTC 2006 |
> Society would not accept the relationship of Romeo and Juliet
Uh, wrong: It was about what the Montagues and Capulets wouldn't accept,
not "society". West Side Story was about inter-racial/cultural,
BM is about intra-gender.
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tod
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response 287 of 342:
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Feb 21 20:52 UTC 2006 |
BM is about cornholing
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happyboy
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response 288 of 342:
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Feb 21 23:24 UTC 2006 |
ooh raw!
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richard
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response 289 of 342:
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Feb 22 15:41 UTC 2006 |
the Montagues and Capulets REPRESENTED society
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jadecat
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response 290 of 342:
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Feb 22 16:08 UTC 2006 |
No, they were two dueling families- had either married anyone else it
would have been perfectly fine.
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tod
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response 291 of 342:
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Feb 22 17:16 UTC 2006 |
re #289
Did benvolio represent Jesus?
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richard
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response 292 of 342:
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Feb 22 18:45 UTC 2006 |
re #290 I was talking about metaphorically
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jadecat
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response 293 of 342:
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Feb 22 18:50 UTC 2006 |
resp:292 I know you were- but it's not an apt metaphor.
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