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jadecat
response 261 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:19 UTC 2006

Well the concept of the 'man as provider' isn't new. In more modern
terms that doesn't mean going out and hunting and bringing home dinner-
it means bringing home a nice pay check. It does seem to be true that
most women want a man to make more money than they do. It doesn't always
matter if she makes a high 5 figures a year- if she does then she wants
a man making 6 figures. In theory. Of course group theory always seems
to break down when you actually apply it to individuals.

As for the older/younger bit. It wouldn't surprise me if some females of
a species actually liked the more mature males because they've managed
to get through the 'young and stupid' phase and are likely to be
better/more experienced providers. 

As for me... I would like to think that people were more than mere
biological urges.
jadecat
response 262 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:20 UTC 2006

resp:260 Heh, it's really all about Ron Weasley (whose real name is
escaping me Rupert Grint maybe?), according to my FL anyway. I do find
it slightly disturbing, then I remember many of them are in their early
20s and I feel better about it. ;)
rcurl
response 263 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:24 UTC 2006

Re #255: Bru is the one seeming to live in a fantasy world. He has a
Panglossian perspective really out of touch with reality. 

There are criminal enterprises in every branch of human endeavor or activity.
It is absurd to conclude that all endeavors and activities should be illegal
because of that. 

It's fine for him to take the view he does of prostitution, but it is just
his opinion with no basis in fact *for well regulated prostitution*. 

What did you think of the fictional prostitute in "Pretty Woman",  bru?
klg
response 264 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:38 UTC 2006

RW says, "I, like anyone else, am perfectly capable of misunderstanding 
some story I read or something from some time back, and misstating 
something.  We're all human.  But to state that I deliberately *make 
things up*, without any facts to back it up, and to act high and mighty 
using that to claim one lacks integrity, is pretty low of jep to do.  
He should apologize."

Too bad he won't apply the same logic to President Bush.  There's a 
word for that, isn't there?.
twenex
response 265 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:40 UTC 2006

Bush, like all politicians, is an inveterate liar who wouldn't know the truth
if it walked up to him and blew itself up. He's just better at it than most.
jadecat
response 266 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:46 UTC 2006

Bush also has, presumably, better sources of information than dear old
Richard.

One would hope. What with the FBI, CIA, NSA, and all those types.
richard
response 267 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:53 UTC 2006

prostitution can be dangerous and I wouldn't recommend it as a career choice
to anyone, but then again I wouldn't recommend working deep underground in
a coal mine or driving around a track at 200mph either as jobs.  There are
plenty of jobs that can be hazardous to your health and well being.  

A firefighter has a more dangerous job than a prostitute.
edina
response 268 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:59 UTC 2006

Really?  Cite please.
tod
response 269 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:37 UTC 2006

re #267
You're forgetting the point Mike made earlier that not all prostitutes are
witting participants.  There is an entire industry based on the sex slave
trade.  The flipside of that coin are guys being harvested for organs
throughout SE Asia.
richard
response 270 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:41 UTC 2006

Is a guy who sells his sperm to a sperm bank for money any different than a
woman who takes money for her "bodily services"?
tod
response 271 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:44 UTC 2006

re #270
Would you rather spooge into a test tube or go down on Karl Rove, richard?
edina
response 272 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:52 UTC 2006

I my opinion, yes.  Richard, look, I know you are all for personal freedom
and what have you, but sometimes I don't think you really look at the
repercussions or practicalities of that.

You might want to ask a young black prostitute (preferably when her pimp isn't
lurking about) if she feels she has any control over her body.
tod
response 273 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:53 UTC 2006

Why does she have to be black?
edina
response 274 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:53 UTC 2006

Because whenever I think of a pimp I think of Snoop Dogg in "Starsky and
Hutch".
tod
response 275 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:58 UTC 2006

I asked about the prostitute being black.  Not why you think of a black pimp.
Why does the prostitute have to be black for richard to get an idea?
edina
response 276 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:59 UTC 2006

Point taken.  I'll rephrase to say "the young prostitute" without using race.
richard
response 277 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:05 UTC 2006

edina I know there are repercussions and practicalities, I just believe that
each of us has the right to make our own personal decisions.  If you want to
have sex for money, it is your body and should be your decision.  Not mine,
or the government's, or anyone else's.  Your decision.
tod
response 278 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:13 UTC 2006

And how would you be able to prove that a person isn't forced into that trade?
richard
response 279 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:18 UTC 2006

the government doesn't need nor should it be the arbiter of morality wherever
possible.  I would not advise anyone to get an abortion, but neither do I
think the government should be making those decisions for people who have
their own minds and their own free wills.  I would not advise anyone to become
a prostitute, but I do not think it is the place of the government to make
such a decision for a consenting adult.

repercussions and practicalities are up to individuals to consider, not up
to the government.
marcvh
response 280 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:18 UTC 2006

How do you prove that any person doing any job isn't forced into it?
tod
response 281 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:34 UTC 2006

Should we legalize CD bootleg sales and stock market fraud while we're at it?
rcurl
response 282 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 00:31 UTC 2006

Re #269: we are NOT talking about persons forced into prostitution. That is
a crime. We are talking about persons that elect prostitution as a business
or hobby.

Re #278: ask them?
johnnie
response 283 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 00:42 UTC 2006

>We are talking about persons that elect prostitution as a business
>or hobby.

I don't know that prostitution can ever be called a "hobby".  

>Re #278: ask them?

What makes you think they'd tell the truth?
rcurl
response 284 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 03:54 UTC 2006

Why do you think they wouldn't?
tod
response 285 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 06:11 UTC 2006

re #283
 I don't know that prostitution can ever be called a "hobby".
That would make "losses" tax deductible!
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