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response 259 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 16:05 UTC 2002

Nope, and there never will be.  Never with Grex, and never with anything 
else into which you have to type a password, unless the author of the 
software wrote in password functionality as a mere formality without 
really caring about it.
gull
response 260 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 17:13 UTC 2002

I second #259, though I do like the more recent convention in some 
software of displaying asterisks as you type your password.  Makes it 
more obvious that you've actually hit the keys and the software is 
actually listening.
jmsaul
response 261 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 17:21 UTC 2002

Re #257:  Do I get a wet, sloppy kiss, too?

Re #254:  I never claimed to be a perfect typist.  I'm a good one, but not
          a perfect one.  I don't need to see what I'm typing, though,
          because I usually notice when I screw up.  Making the password
          visible for everyone when it's typed is a really bad idea.

          Even worse than leaving the annoying-but-somehow-useless-for-
          preventing-hacking delay in.
aruba
response 262 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 17:38 UTC 2002

Re #261: Not from me, but perhaps some other Grexer will oblige you.
jmsaul
response 263 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 17:47 UTC 2002

Tease.
davel
response 264 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 21:06 UTC 2002

re 260: I often am glad for things that echo asterisks or something.  However,
if I were logging in from a public place, I'd worry about it.  Making it
easier for people to know for sure how many characters you're typing is not
all that good an idea.
gelinas
response 265 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 21:36 UTC 2002

Lotus Notes put up a random number of heiroglyphs, rather than asterisks.
bilz
response 266 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 22:12 UTC 2002

why is this so slow?
gelinas
response 267 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 23:52 UTC 2002

What do you mean by "slow"?  If picospan ("bbs"), then it's probably because
this is a long-running conversation.
mdw
response 268 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 01:02 UTC 2002

The bad password delay has been a standard part of Unix login programs
for a long time.  The retry shouldn't be obnoxious unless you've managed
to typo your password twice, in which case, it probably won't hurt for
you to slowdown and think about what you're doing.

The IETF folks want to put a built-in delay of >1second (via a
computationally expensive CPU loop) for encrypting K5 passwords via AES.
If you want to worry about something, why not worry about that?
gelinas
response 269 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 01:22 UTC 2002

What is their excuse?
jmsaul
response 270 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 02:24 UTC 2002

Re #268:  It's obnoxious on one retyping.  Try it.  (I don't typo it
          twice.)
mdw
response 271 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 02:43 UTC 2002

Slow down brute force password cracking.
oval
response 272 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 07:41 UTC 2002

 :)
jhudson
response 273 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 18:17 UTC 2002

The problem with ^H, ^U, etc. is buried in /usr/sbin/telnetd.
hash
response 274 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 03:25 UTC 2002

finding a pattern in spam:
http://www.blackant.net/code/oth/random/nlp-spamfilter.php
jep
response 275 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:14 UTC 2002

Backtalk is not working; it stopped working about an hour ago.  I can
still telnet in, though.
remmers
response 276 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 01:54 UTC 2002

Seems to be working now.  My guess is that httpd died, then got
restarted.
keesan
response 277 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 03:17 UTC 2002

Looking up www.google.com, guessing (no DNS numbers available?).
The internet is not terribly usable with lynx at present.
gelinas
response 278 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 03:33 UTC 2002

About three minutes before #277, I noticed that 

        load average: 12.08, 7.59, 6.00

I could be wrong, of course, but I suspect the two events are related.
russ
response 279 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 19:55 UTC 2002

"nslookup" is freezing up instead of reporting data.
jp2
response 280 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 20:18 UTC 2002

This response has been erased.

rlejeune
response 281 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 21:21 UTC 2002

I have been having probs with nslookup freezing up as well. 
janc
response 282 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 17:25 UTC 2002

I'm a lousy typist.  I've been known to cut/paste passwords.

Of course, you can log in to Backtalk, where most browsers do echo 
bullets with each keystroke and where the authentication delays are, 
well, different.

I really would like it if login/telnet/etc would accept *both* CONTROL-H 
and DELETE as backspace characters when entering logins and passwords.  
It's a pain to remember which key to use where.
gelinas
response 283 of 293: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 00:28 UTC 2002

Jan, are you not in probably the very best of all positions to make your dream
a reality?

I've heard UNIX geeks complain before about the lack of concensus on a
backspace key.  The discussions usually result in everyone throwing up their
hands in disgust and frustration.
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