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ball
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response 257 of 290:
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Mar 13 15:25 UTC 2006 |
I think I should network my next home with Ethernet
(probably a combination of 10baseT, 100baseTX and perhaps
1000baseT over cat-5e and RS-485 (over Cat-3?)
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ball
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response 258 of 290:
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Mar 13 15:27 UTC 2006 |
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cross
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response 259 of 290:
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Mar 13 15:29 UTC 2006 |
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twenex
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response 260 of 290:
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Mar 13 15:51 UTC 2006 |
Re: #259. I see. For one, your original statement implied, or at least I took
it as implying, that RMS and the OSI were "intimately connected" in the way
that RMS and the FSF are. I didn't realize that the OSF had merely "taken his
side".
For another, RMS/FSF advocate free software, not merely "Open Source", which
the OSF is "responsible" and which looser definition merely *includes*, but
is not restricted to, free software.
Re: #256. Why should Stallman, or anyone, give anyone the right to use,
modify, and distribute software they've distributed *with source*, without
requiring them to either (a) give credit to the original authors, (b)
distribute either the original, or their modified, source under the same
conditions as the source they got in the first place, (c) pay up, or (d) some
combination of the preceding?
Might as well work one's rear end off to buy a High Definition, Widescreen,
Digital Television, then give it to the nearest beggar, complete with
generator.
The only people who really want to have the right not to distribute source are
those who are interested in getting something for nothing and charging for the
privilege.
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twenex
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response 261 of 290:
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Mar 13 15:53 UTC 2006 |
Charging others for the privilege, that is.
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cross
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response 262 of 290:
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Mar 13 16:38 UTC 2006 |
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keesan
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response 263 of 290:
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Mar 13 18:23 UTC 2006 |
The Linksys wireless card works in Windows (I think, we have no signal to test
it on but the driver CD installed drivers and found the card). A neighbor
lent us a Netgear card to try with linux, but it needs the same linux module.
I got the source code at Driverguide (Realtek's links are broken) but can't
compile it - I get lots of warnings and then an error. I downloaded the Win98
driver for it (about 100K) and unzipped to get a .sys and a .inf file.
Obviously this is not the self-installing type of driver. How do we feed it
properly to Win98? I want to test it before returning it to the neighbor so
he will know if it works. (He sleeps until late afternoon).
We also found a Yahoo camera setup exe that installed itself somewhere or
other but we have no idea where. Jim fixed the camera somehow. .1 MP.
Serial cable, not working with our DOS Photopc download software.
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ball
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response 264 of 290:
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Mar 13 18:52 UTC 2006 |
Is that a Webcam? What make & model? I recently got one
that works with NetBSD (probably Linux too). Mine is a
Logitech Quickcan Chat. Once I have DSL, I will try video-
conferencing with it.
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keesan
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response 265 of 290:
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Mar 14 01:06 UTC 2006 |
Tiger Direct Yahoo Digital Camera. Blue and yellow, 320x200, stores 20 low
res photos. We installed the software (ran the .exe file) and I have no idea
where it was put. An online review said to reboot to use it so we plugged
in the camera and 10 min later got back into Win98 and still had no idea how
to download a photo. 1.1MB .exe file, no instructions for use.
We took the laptop computer with wireless card to the library. A librarian
helped us fill in the same long number on two lines and we still have no
connection. Jim plugged in his USB memory stick to a computer there and it
does not work. The library said they will fix that eventually. There is a
floppy drive but we can only get small files onto it and the whole point was
to download things like kernel source.
Win98 would not work with the USB stick so we used a 1-floppy linux to
transfer 2.8MB of file for the other wireless card from my linux download.
Win98 says it cannot find some files it needs. We seem to have Win98FE.
The first card is said to have worked on a friend's computer, I wonder how.
I am going to get out some paper books and go home now.
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ball
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response 266 of 290:
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Mar 14 01:41 UTC 2006 |
In case this helps, I found a few random pages on the Web
that seem to suggest that uses the STM STV680 chipset. I
don't know whether Linux drivers are available, but if the
camera supports a removeable flash card (like my cheap
digital still camera, which uses Smartmedia cards), you may
be able to mount those cards in a suitable reader and read
that way the pictures you take.
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keesan
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response 267 of 290:
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Mar 14 02:51 UTC 2006 |
The card has about 100Kbytes of built-in RAM, not a flash card. The only
mention I found for it for linux was that nobody had any idea whether it
worked and to let them know if it did. My expensive Olympus digital camera
uses Smartmedia cards (for which I have a reader that works in linux but not
DOS) and it also comes with a serial download cable that works in linux or
DOS (40K, fits onto a book disk). Can you find linux software for the camer?
It apparently takes nighttime photos via infrared flash and Jim wants to try
it for fun. A grexer gave it to us. It is reviewed under 'toys, other'.
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response 268 of 290:
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Mar 14 05:06 UTC 2006 |
My wife recently bought an Olympus digital camera. I suspect
(althought I have yet to confirm this) that it supports the
umass standard and should work directly with systems like
NetBSD and Linux.
I'll look for open-source drivers for your Yahoo Digital
Camera.
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mcnally
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response 269 of 290:
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Mar 14 07:20 UTC 2006 |
The Olympus camera I bought 4 years ago worked as a USB mass
storage device, as does the one I bought earlier this year.
I'm sure yours will as well.
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ball
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response 270 of 290:
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Mar 14 08:58 UTC 2006 |
Nice job Olympus! ;-)
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keesan
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response 271 of 290:
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Mar 14 14:52 UTC 2006 |
Mine is never going to work as a USB mass storage device because it only comes
with a serial cable. The card reader is mass-storage.
I found STV0680.c linux software but it seems to be for USB. I also found
two other Win98 drivers to try next with the Yahoo camera. The camera is said
to also need Video4Linux (maybe to act as a webcam? Maybe to take single
photos while acting as a webcam?). Someone using it with Windows said just
to plug it in and reboot to download photos, which is all we are after.
Lots of other cheap cameras (spycam, pen camera) use this chip.
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ball
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response 272 of 290:
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Mar 14 15:12 UTC 2006 |
I don't know if this helps...
http://gkall.hobby.nl/stv680-aiptek.html
...or if it supports the RS-232 cable option.
Have you tried sane or gphoto?
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keesan
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response 273 of 290:
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Mar 14 22:08 UTC 2006 |
I have SANE set up for a scanner. I deleted the qcam parts, which I think
are for webcam. I read about gphoto - it is about a 5MB download with dozens
of dependencies, and most things won't compile on my system. Today we tried
three Win98 drivers and they all installed but there are no instructions about
what to do next. This camera has a serial cable. Jim just wants to play with
it a bit and take infrared flash shots and I am not going to knock myself out
trying to compile a huge program, one little bit of which downloads images
from this toy camera.
How does one use a camera that is not USB in Windows? It installed a couple
dozen files, I think. The third of these Win98 packages is 1.1MB.
It put files stv* into c:\windows\system : cfg, dll, sys, drv. Ten files.
Maybe the batteries ran down? It has stopped beeping when we reboot.
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ball
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response 274 of 290:
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Mar 15 01:50 UTC 2006 |
It's some time since I saw a digital camera with a serial
interface. That was an old Apple QuickTake (I forget which
model, but perhaps all of them had serial ports). If the
supplied software doesn't work with your camera, I don't
know what to suggest, since I doubt there's a serial
equivalent of umass.
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keesan
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response 275 of 290:
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Mar 15 02:00 UTC 2006 |
It probably does work, we just don't have any instructions how to use it.
Our other two serial cameras work with 40K of Photopc software in DOS or
linux, for downloads, or to list what is on there, remove it, rename it, etc.
I don't know what the 1.1MB of Windows software is supposed to do, or how.
umass - usb-storage? I will look into qcam (SANE).
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keesan
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response 276 of 290:
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Mar 15 03:56 UTC 2006 |
I am about to try compiling a PCMCIA kernel to use with the 133MHz laptop and
the wireless card. Can someone give a simple summary of how to go about this?
I have kernel source code in /usr/src/linux-2.4.31 (linked to
/lib/modules/2.4.31/build) and I think I put the pcmcia-cs package there and
unpack it and run a make config on that package as well as for the kernel.
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gull
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response 277 of 290:
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Mar 17 08:09 UTC 2006 |
Re resp:222: Good luck finding a USB wireless adapter that works with
MacOS. I never did. I found one D-Link model that was supposed to,
but the drivers were terrible and made MacOS unstable.
Re resp:248: Actually, I think a problem with X11 is that there *are*
so many options. Instead of having one or two window managers that are
really good, and one or two sets of widgets and interface standards to
support, there are dozens of half-baked ones. The network-oriented
operation of X also made it slow, which has since inspired three or
four direct rendering methods, all of which are (of course)
incompatible with each other.
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twenex
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response 278 of 290:
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Mar 17 09:37 UTC 2006 |
Better dozens of half-baked ones to choose from than one half-baked one you're
forced to use.
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keesan
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response 279 of 290:
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Mar 17 15:57 UTC 2006 |
Jim mentioned to people that we were trying to get PCMCIA and modems working
so someone in his Dawn Ducks group gave him two external 56K (probably v92)
and a router with an Airwire 330TX Maxgate. Maxgate is made by Umax and I
could not find any drivers for it there. I could not find Airwire 330TX on
the web. I found Addtron AEF-330TX which uses the same chip as Accton EN1217
according to BSD, and the Macronix 98713 chip, which is supported by tulip
but may need something special done during compilation. I will try it anyway,
precompiled module from Slackware.
This card plugs into a PCMCIA slot in a box that also has a printer port and
two ethernet ports labelled PC and hub and one wider WAN? port. What gets
plugged into each of these? Do we plug something from the ISP (if we have
DSL) into one port and a hub into the other into which we can plug several
computers (if we don't want to use wireless)? I presume we can take this same
wireless card and put it into a laptop computer to take to the library.
What is the WAN used for and how?
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ball
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response 280 of 290:
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Mar 17 16:09 UTC 2006 |
Re #277: I was really hoping to use NetBSD, but my iBook's
firmware wouldn't boot from an ffs partition. I tried
OpenDarwin, but it was dismal. Perhaps I'll try putting
the NetBSD kernel on a small Darwin partition and making
the rest of the disk ffs. Failing all that, I'll need to
find MacOS X Panther on CD.
Re #279: What is the make and model of the mystery box?
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keesan
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response 281 of 290:
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Mar 17 16:17 UTC 2006 |
MaxGate UGate-3300 Wireless Sharing Router with Print Server.
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