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25 new of 870 responses total.
twenex
response 255 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 14:52 UTC 2005

In all instances of ".profile" or ".login file" above, substitute "rc file"
instead.
keesan
response 256 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:43 UTC 2005

I  was able to telnet in just now but dialin does not work:telnetd:  all
Network ports in use.   ...
Followed a few seconds later by NO CARRIER.    
Twice.
There is considerable telnet lag.   There was no wait when I telnetted.
keesan
response 257 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:52 UTC 2005

Using picospan, there is a few seconds wait for the last few lines of the next
response screen to appear.  Vandalism?
keesan
response 258 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:55 UTC 2005

asd, aka 'smart' is using 97% of CPU for the past 550 minutes, running 'john'.
I will email gelinas.  Grex is still usable.   Is there some way to limit
individual users to 1 or at most 5% of CPU use?  
keesan
response 259 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:06 UTC 2005

I have in the past couple of days received three fragments of emails (presumed
spam) consisting of just the beginning of the header such as:

From the-concourse-on-high Thu Jan  6 11:01:04 2005
Received: from [201.17.23.27] (helo=c911171b.rjo.virtua.com.br)
        by grex.cyberspace.org with smtp (Exim 4.42)
        id 1CmZp2-0003qY-M4; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:45:13 -0500
Received: (from pyroxenite@201.17.23.27)
        by helmholtz5[1


Is this just sloppy spam-writing or something going wrong in the middle of 
the mail receiving process at grex?  Or vandalism?
petercon
response 260 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:07 UTC 2005

Some people may have more problems in their scripts now that we've 
moved away from a SysV UNIX to a BSD UNIX - the "usr/ucb" directory in 
a SunOS sytem is where BSD UNIX commands were put in Suns SysV OS.  
Something like the move from Korn shell scripts to bash.  Shell scripts 
using Sun's SysV commands may not work the same in BSD (or be missing 
entirely) so be aware.  

Also, there are more differences in the directory structure and the 
whole environment and deamon setup that may affect scripts written in a 
SysV system.  Better test your scripts before trusting them.

In my case (so far) I had to remove all my aliases and removed 
the '/usr/ucb' reference in two places in my .profile.  I also notice 
git is gone and without mc or git Grex is not very easy to use as file 
management is a pain without a file manager.  I'll keep playing though.
tsty
response 261 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:57 UTC 2005

general question: is there a way to spam-filter for plain-ol-mail?
  
pine is a pain (imnsho) even with its 'advanced' features (bloat?).
  
plain-0L-mail is soooooooooooooooooooo easy to use/learn adn it
soes not suck up f feast-full of quota blocks, either.
mcnally
response 262 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:14 UTC 2005

 re #261:  the tool you want to use is probably procmail.  you can
 pass mail off to a filter before it is ever delivered into your inbox
 and the read the mail that passes the filter with whatever MUA (mail
 user agent, aka "mail reader") you want.

 Sindi can probably tell you how to set up an elaborate system of 
 procmail rules to try to screen out spam or you can wait until staff
 have time to install a system like SpamAssassin or other anti-spam
 package and have procmail use that.
petercon
response 263 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:20 UTC 2005

I don't see color in any command (ls, links, lynx, more(less), w3m, 
etc.) anymore.  I forced pine to use color.  Still using Putty which 
means TERM is set to xterm.  On the Sun aliasing "ls -color" worked but 
not on OpenBSD.
twenex
response 264 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:38 UTC 2005

Set TERM to ansi. You can do this in PuTTY too.
keesan
response 265 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:43 UTC 2005

A friend reports that Pine spellcheck is not working.  I tried it and got a
message about something alternate and 255.

Please feel free to copy /a/k/e/keesan/.forward and also
/a/k/e/keesan/.procmailrc but change keesan in the latter file to your own
login and delete all lines starting with # and also change my whitelist (the
remaining parts with $MAIL on the last of three lines) to your whitelist by
putting in the addresses of friends who write you rather than the From:'s that
I have chosen to let through from my friends.  And email keesan for help.
The complicated bit about Nigeria is to send Nigeria spams to a nigeria folder
and also to polygon who posts them at his website.
davel
response 266 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:54 UTC 2005

Re 260: I think /usr/ucb is a Sun-ism.  It's certainly not SYSV, and the SunOS
we were running before was a BSD, pre-Solaris SunOS.
drew
response 267 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 22:01 UTC 2005

Re #253:
    lsz works. One major issue solved, one (or two) more to go.
keesan
response 268 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 23:26 UTC 2005

Party (hayz) is now splitting 98% of CPU usage with smart/asd.  Could some
staff member kindly delete both accounts?
tod
response 269 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 23:31 UTC 2005

load averages:  2.70,  2.73,  2.77                                    
18:31:34
138 processes: 3 running, 135 idle
CPU states: 94.2% user,  0.0% nice,  5.6% system,  0.2% interrupt,  0.0% idle
Memory: Real: 71M/210M act/tot  Free: 1301M  Swap: 0K/3072M used/tot

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE WAIT     TIME    CPU COMMAND
20421 smart     64    0 5668K 5980K run   -      953:53 49.37% john
11064 hayz3141  64    0  300K  896K run   -       44:26 45.80% party
29978 _mysql     2    0   34M   17M sleep poll     1:29  0.00% mysqld
32358 _syslogd   2    0  164K  488K sleep poll     1:16  0.00% syslogd
 3601 named      2    0 2516K 2852K sleep select   1:05  0.00% named
20957 exim       2    0  580K  696K sleep select   0:27  0.00% exim-4.42-2
15359 _pflogd    4    0  512K  328K sleep bpf      0:08  0.00% pflogd
15771 root       2    0  284K 1000K idle  select   0:05  0.00% sshd
10834 root       2    0 1092K 1932K sleep select   0:04  0.00% httpd
mcnally
response 270 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 00:49 UTC 2005

 re #268:  quoting % CPU usage is not enough to establish that a user
 is abusing the system.  At the very least we'd need to know the load
 average on the system as well.  When not very much is going on it's
 not unusual for a single process or a few processes to appear to hog
 the CPU.  It doesn't necessarily mean they're starving other jobs.
keesan
response 271 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 03:29 UTC 2005

Is it considered good manners to be logged on for 954 (minutes, hours?) using
this much CPU time?  Smart appears to have been logged on since very early
Thursday (finger) so I don't really know what the TIME column means.  
gull
response 272 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 03:32 UTC 2005

That's 954 minutes of CPU time.  It's the cumulative amount of time 
that process has used the CPU, which is not necessarily the same as 
the amount of time since it was started.  (In fact, unless the process 
has continuously used 100% of the CPU, it will always be lower.) 
 
keesan
response 273 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 04:38 UTC 2005

Is that not a lot of CPU time to be used by one user?  Until recently that
process was using about 97% of cpu time.  Could you take a look at what is
going on?  User smart lists as name 'asd' which is one of many things on my
twit filter so this is likely to be some sort of 'joke'.  
petercon
response 274 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 15:22 UTC 2005

Yes /usr/ucb is a "Sun-ism".  That stands for "University of California 
at Berkeley", i.e. BSD's original "home". SunOS _is_ SysV, has been 
since I started using it in 1988.  You'll find SysV commands 
in /usr/bin and BSD commands in /usr/ucb.  You'l find the SysV 
conventional directory setup including /dev/tty??? (which is not in 
BSD). Here's a script (everytty - which lists all the ports in use by a 
particular user) which I have run on the old Sun box - it's pure SysV 
(will even work on Linux which follows SysV conventions).  It won't run 
under any BSD derivative.  It's called by "everytty username".

#!/bin/sh
 for a in `find /dev/tty[a-s]? -user $1 -print`
 do
   a=`basename $a`
   echo "
 $a:"
   ps -xt$a
 done

Sun did the /usr/ucb thing to add BSD-isms to its OS and allow users to 
choose which "flavor" they wanted to see by changing the order of their 
PATH, either putting /usr/bin or /usr/ucb first in their PATH.  Hope 
that clears things up.
twenex
response 275 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 15:27 UTC 2005

http://kb.indiana.edu/data/agjq.html?cust=023362.83043.131

SunOS is a Sun Microsystems implementation of the Unix operating system.
Solaris is SunOS packaged with a number of additional tools, and a graphical
user interface (GUI) environment. Since Sun Microsystems did not offer the
Solaris product until SunOS 4, SunOS and Solaris have different version
conventions (e.g., Solaris 1 includes SunOS 4, while Solaris 2 includes SunOS
5). To further confuse the naming scheme, Sun now refers to Solaris by just
its point release (e.g., Solaris 7, 8, or 9 instead of 2.7, 2.8, or 2.9).

When Bill Joy, one of the main programmers of the Berkeley Software
Distribution (BSD), helped found Sun in 1982, he brought with him the elements
for the first release of SunOS. Up through version 4.1.x (Solaris 1.x), SunOS
remained a heavily BSD-influenced Unix implementation. However, in the late
'80s, Sun entered into a partnership with AT&T, which was then developing the
other major Unix flavor, System V. The result was System V release 4 (SVR4),
which incorporated BSD as well as SunOS extensions (e.g., NFS). Subsequently,
with its version 5.x (Solaris 2.x) releases, SunOS shifted from its BSD
origins to SVR4.
mfp
response 276 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 15:46 UTC 2005

http://www.bsdforjesus.org/
rksjr
response 277 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 17:00 UTC 2005

Our site:

    Linkname: Grex Web Server Statistics
    URL: http://www.cyberspace.org/stats/

is currently reporting for time ranges no later than:

    October 03-October 09 2004
tod
response 278 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 17:09 UTC 2005

UH OH
mfp
response 279 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 17:14 UTC 2005

OH DEAR>
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