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bhelliom
response 255 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 18:14 UTC 2002

Haha!

Well it's not one of those movies that's really heart-pounding in 
the "keeps you awake if you're sleepy way". :p
mynxcat
response 256 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 18:19 UTC 2002

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bhelliom
response 257 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 18:20 UTC 2002

/lol/

I guess I'm glad I didn't waste the bucks.  I've heard that about 
Nemesis, too.
krj
response 258 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:49 UTC 2002

ST: NEMESIS:  I'm kind of blah about it.  My ears hurt from too many
space battle sound effects.  Leslie liked it.

My biggest problem with the movie is that there's no interesting 
twists to the set-up.  There's this guy, he's bad, he wants to attack
Earth, the Enterprise crew has to stop him.  The writers wanted to 
set up a nature vs. nurture debate, but I don't think they were 
successful with it.   The Romulan background to the story was 
wasted.   

My second-biggest problem with the movie is that the images are 
way too dark and dim.  My third-biggest problem with the 
movie is that the universe really should not revolve around 
Jean-Luc Picard.  

On the positive side, it's nice to see the Old Gang again; fans of the 
NextGen TV series really do have to go see this one.

aruba
response 259 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 20:16 UTC 2002

I think they were pressed enough for time as it was - the parts of all the
regulars except Picard and Data are cut down to the point where you would
wonder why they were even there if you didn't know them from the show.  So
I don't know what they would have cut to add interesting setup to the
villain.

Oh wait - they could have cut the dunebuggy chase scene.  But they needed it
for the previews.
jep
response 260 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 20:18 UTC 2002

I guess I'll go to see it, then.  I liked ST:TNG.

I am eagerly awaiting The Two Towers, which comes out Wednesday.  I 
probably won't see it until the weekend but I'm eagerly awaiting it 
just the same.
bhelliom
response 261 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 20:34 UTC 2002

I'l second that one, regarding LOTR.
drew
response 262 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 20:47 UTC 2002

    I traveled a significant portion of 8 Mile the other night. I'm wondering
what's so special about this road that a movie should be named after it...
slynne
response 263 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 21:02 UTC 2002

Think about what the movie 8 mile is about? It is about a white kid 
looking for acceptance from black peers. There are two things about him 
that make him different. 1) he is white 2) even though he is poor, he 
still lives in the 'burbs. Detroit is a very segregated metro area. 8 
mile is the dividing line between city and suburb. It also divides 
white from black. I am not sure but I would guess that those things 
have something to do with Emimem's choice of title for his movie. 
mynxcat
response 264 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 21:06 UTC 2002

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bhelliom
response 265 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 21:28 UTC 2002

Could it also be because it's a well-known strip in the 313 area?  
Trailers aren't exactly urban dwellings, really.
mynxcat
response 266 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 21:58 UTC 2002

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slynne
response 267 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 22:08 UTC 2002

They have trailer parks in the suburban communities that border 8 mile. 
Not every suburb is rich. In fact, because of sprawl, a there is a lot 
of decay in the "inner tier" suburbs from what I understand. 

313 is the area code for the area south of 8 mile which is mostly the 
City of Detroit. 810 is the area code of the suburbs north of 8 mile. 
slynne
response 268 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 22:13 UTC 2002

Or rather 810 *was* the area code for all the suburbs north of 8 mile. 
Now they have 248 and 586 which are closer to Detroit and 810 is kind 
of the outlying areas like Flint and Port Huron. 
jep
response 269 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 23:02 UTC 2002

My niece in Tennessee is a big Eminem fan.  She's excited about the 
prospect of coming up to Michigan next summer because I've promised to 
take her to see the actual 8 Mile Rd.  I know nothing about it at all, 
but I've told her we'll go there.

I can just see me with her, cruising up and down the entire length of 8 
Mile.

I occasionally go for drives at lunch time, and have gotten to 8 Mile 
going down Earhart Rd.  I wonder if she'll be satisfied with that part 
(which is in the country) or whether she'll insist on seeing the 
populated parts.

Someone tell me there's nothing unsafe about driving on 8 Mile; that my 
niece and I aren't going to be bludgeoned or shot at if we visit the 
seedier parts; that I didn't make a stupid promise.
mcnally
response 270 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 23:23 UTC 2002

  Well, as long as you have a visa from one of the local gangsta lords
  who control that part of the area you should be OK..

  Oh, please..  What is it with the terror that suburbanites have of the
  Detroit area?
orinoco
response 271 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 23:29 UTC 2002

There is absolutely nothing unsafe about driving on 8 Mile.  In general, it's
safe to drive through the sketchy parts of cities.  You're locked inside a
2-ton metal box, you're surrounded by other drivers who are potential
witnesses, and unless you're in bumper-to-bumper gridlock you can drive away
if someone does try to mess with you -- what's anyone going to do to you?
other
response 272 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 00:13 UTC 2002

Safe?  Not quite.  There're all these suburbanites in their roadhog 
SUV's...
jep
response 273 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 01:29 UTC 2002

I am not a suburbanite.  I live in Tecumseh.  I grew up in Eaton 
Rapids, and spent several years in the UP.  What I know of cities, I 
got from watching "Goodfellas" and "The Godfather", and from reading 
the newspaper.  I've never gone to Detroit except to attend a baseball 
game.  I've pretty regularly got lost, and seen some pretty rough 
looking sections of the city.  I don't know if I've seen any parts 
which were rough enough anyone made a movie about growing up in them.
other
response 274 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 01:34 UTC 2002

Lots of parts of Detroit look just as rough as they did in 1967 when they 
burned down, only more ruinous, and are actually pretty innocuous.
senna
response 275 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 02:54 UTC 2002

I've been to the seedier parts of most places, and honestly I don't think I've
been under much threat, even when out of my car at night in really nasty
places.  There are just certain ways you do things, I guess, but driving in
Detroit in daylight is certainly not much of a high-risk activity.

I take that back, sort of.  You're at lower risk in the neighborhoods than
you are on the highways. :)
gull
response 276 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 03:03 UTC 2002

You should be all right.   The bullets go *from* cars and *into* houses, not
the other way around.
rcurl
response 277 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 03:09 UTC 2002

Just don't look like you are worth anything.
tpryan
response 278 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 03:41 UTC 2002

re 259:  The dunebuggy sceene.  A must to set up the video game 
"Drive from Argo".
tpryan
response 279 of 289: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 03:43 UTC 2002

        I was going to suggest travel on Pontiac Trail to Eight 
Mile in South Lyon, but you don't get to the scary part of 
South Lyon before you would turn right on 8 mile.
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