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Grex > Coop8 > #52: Adding .yeswrite and .nowrite to the write program | |
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pfv
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response 250 of 315:
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Jul 16 16:47 UTC 1996 |
Nope, tsty wants to legislate political correctness, and most users ain't
about to buy that, no how ;-)
Freedom is about choice: having them or making them.. If you can't kill
the pest nextdoor due to the laws, morals or environmental-hazards, then
you better be able to ignore him.. Personally, I think of the fine
fertilizer such pests can become, but damned if there ain't pesky laws
about making folks disappear ;-> Besides, the AEC gets kinda peeved if
you nuke the other pests down the street ;-)
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jenna
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response 251 of 315:
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Jul 16 21:08 UTC 1996 |
mural... is ntalking me right now. totally unprovoked.
humm... see tsty you consider prejudcie what I consider
the right of choice. If we install me\sg n, everytme a new
unfriiendly bugs me I WILL post about the lag and
inconvienince of having to change my files. it's impractal. (especially with
the lag lately).
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srw
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response 252 of 315:
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Jul 17 04:27 UTC 1996 |
Well this conversation is indeed getting old, but we are not waiting for a
resolution here to decide what to do. A staffer volunteered to work on the
problem after the board (at its last meeting) agreed that it had no
objections. So as soon as the work is actually done, we can expect support
for both a yes and a no write.
I think this is the right thing for us to do. I like choices.
I really don't think it is inappropriate.
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tsty
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response 253 of 315:
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Jul 17 08:46 UTC 1996 |
the right of choice is in teh answer... i say 'hi' on the street to
an abosolute stranger .... <gasp!> <<freakout city!!>> gimme a break.
there is absolutely no intimation that jenna would 'freakout,' and
also (not 'but') would put that 'hi' in the .nowrite file.
gee, sorry.
if the concept of grex is simply to forward the hostilities of the
past, well, i can't stop it. keep the hostilities going. we didn't
start out that way, we should not (imo) re-invent past hostilites,
but we seem to be headed rapidly in that direction.
as for #250s idiocy of "political correctness," ... that sophmoric
rant is so far out to lunch one would wonder if you had breakfast ... three
days ago.
it is not at all "impractical" to suggest that an individual take
the responsibility of self-empowerment .....errrr, -protection.
you want staff to do your typing for you? ... i didn't think so till now.
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adbarr
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response 254 of 315:
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Jul 17 10:55 UTC 1996 |
It is really quite simple. What is good for tsty is not necessarily good
for me. Why is that so hard to grasp. No one is imposing the use of these
programs on anyone.
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void
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response 255 of 315:
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Jul 17 11:52 UTC 1996 |
but tsty, i would tend to doubt that you would walk up to a complete
stranger and say, "hi. do you like to suck large dicks?"
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brighn
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response 256 of 315:
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Jul 17 16:48 UTC 1996 |
*rotfl at #255*
Sorry, I shouldn't laugh. Excellent point, Void.
I was going to say:
Toasty, if youdon't want to use the .yes/.nowrite files, don't.
What is with all these comparisons between cyberspace and RL?
They *don't work*. This is an entirely new paradigm, it just
CAN'T be compared to answering machines, people on the strreet...
If three judges in Pennsylvania can grasp that, why can't Toasty
(and everyone else who's been making there RL comparisons).?
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popcorn
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response 257 of 315:
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Jul 17 20:47 UTC 1996 |
I watched a friend of mine logged in to Grex with a very female-sounding name
and her perms on. In the course of 20 minutes she got 2 chat requests from
total strangers.
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popcorn
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response 258 of 315:
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Jul 17 20:59 UTC 1996 |
She ended up with 4 chat requests in just over 30 minutes she was logged on.
All requests were from total strangers. I am impressed, and very glad to have
a "mesg n" in my .login.
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nephi
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response 259 of 315:
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Jul 17 22:47 UTC 1996 |
Grr. I am *anxiously* awaiting this software -- especially if it will let
me turn talk off while leaving other modes of communication on. Witness the
following:
did, "connection closed" So it took more than an hour to get on grex
this morning, which since I was multi-tasking wasnt any great
inconveninece, but is still ridiculous.
--More--
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:47 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:47 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:48 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:48 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:49 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:49 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:50 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:50 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:51 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Message from Talk_Daemon@grex.cyberspace.org at 17:51 ...
talk: connection requested by matre@grex.cyberspace.org.
talk: respond with: talk matre@grex.cyberspace.org
Don't some people know when to quit?! I wonder if talk can be configured to
rering every 60 or 90 seconds, instead of every 30 seconds . . .
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remmers
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response 260 of 315:
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Jul 17 23:25 UTC 1996 |
I'm not sure how much I'll be in a position to do something about
talk. However, for now you might be able to shut off the re-rings
by doing a 'mesg n'.
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adbarr
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response 261 of 315:
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Jul 18 00:22 UTC 1996 |
mesg n is a gift from the gods. Or, at least, it is "pretty cool". <
Aahrrgh!>.
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nephi
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response 262 of 315:
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Jul 18 00:32 UTC 1996 |
I hope that you'll be able to incorporate talk into you new Software.
Otherwise, its usefulness will be diminished . . .
Anyway, mesg n is how I usually kill off those jerkos, but my session
(coincidentally?) froze up during that talk storm and I couldn't get to any
sort of prompt. I ended up having to telnet back in. Thank goodness there
was no queue, or that person would have had Hell to pay! 8^)
(The above was an example of "Just Kidding!". I would have been really mad
at that . . . person, though . . . )
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ajax
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response 263 of 315:
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Jul 18 04:07 UTC 1996 |
I don't really see the problem, Mike. Why is he a "jerko" for requesting
a talk connection? That wouldn't cause a telnet session to freeze up.
If the system or net connection was really slow, there's a decent chance
he couldn't stop the talk request, either.
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nephi
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response 264 of 315:
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Jul 18 04:39 UTC 1996 |
What makes a person a jerko is when they sit there and talk you for 5 minutes
non-stop. After the first minute, one would think that if the other party
was interested in talking that they would have answered the talk request.
Anyway, you're right, though. If his lag was as bad as mine was, then he may
not have been able to stop the talk request. I didn't think of that . . .
(Didn't I say I was crabby? 8^)
Anyway, I still can't see the first character that I typed in, so I'm gonna
quit now.
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tsty
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response 265 of 315:
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Jul 18 08:34 UTC 1996 |
kill the daemon?
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jenna
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response 266 of 315:
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Jul 18 19:47 UTC 1996 |
tsty -- if you followied me around all afternoon one day in ann arbor
saying "talk to me" "talk to me" I would call the police (if you a complete
stranger. THAT's what these random strangers do. ntalk ntalk ntalk ntalk
for ten minutes. you send them a tel saying "Exmuse me, but I don't
WANT ntaslk requests and would ap[preciate it if you would stop"
and only 1/10 of them does... the rest blithely go on like they
can't understand english.
this is my on line version of calling the police
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tsty
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response 267 of 315:
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Jul 19 06:50 UTC 1996 |
sicne the daemon spawns itself with a single issuance of the talk commmand,
it mihgt be a worthwhile modification to make the thing do its trick
only once per invocation ....like tel/chat/write.
i, too , consider the incessent 4-6 line screen blast - and automative
repeats until stopped- to be an excessive nuisance. the fix is in the
offending softwaree ... the user who starts a talk is not the multiple
screen blaster, the software itself is.
also, fwiw, i tel back immedaitely something on the
order of "i do NOT do talk, chat or go away." funny, they go away ...
and anyone who has seen the multi-lines fuyll of blast can surely imagine
some one being hit with 3-4 talk requests simultanwously ... that
would be a screen ful, now wouldn't it?
recognize that the issuer gave ONLY a single command that spawns itself
onto your screen by itself. i think the first fix would be in the
software, not in a .yeswrite file.
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rcurl
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response 268 of 315:
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Jul 19 07:26 UTC 1996 |
After a number of tiresome chat requests that I answered I ignored
the next one, and the pern kept trying to chat day after day - as though
lying in wait for me to sign on. I eventually e-mailed it, and asked if
there was anything it wanted to know about Grex. It responded with something
like "how old are you?" I responded that if it wanted to know anything about
Grex, ask. It returned to trying to chat after a couple of days. I find
this kind of behavior very mysterious. It has finally stopped, since I don't
respond in any medium to it (and applied mesg N while it was still trying).
I would have been glad to have a .nowrite available.
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adbarr
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response 269 of 315:
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Jul 19 20:50 UTC 1996 |
Well, just how old are you, cutiepie? Like that, somehow? The only thing
lacking in mesg n is a retaliatory response done autmatically without
human intervention, so they get the point.
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chelsea
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response 270 of 315:
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Jul 19 23:15 UTC 1996 |
What we need here, quite clearly, is an Eliza program. It
would be accesed by any talk or chat request, have an alias
like "bigtits", and never blush or get bored.
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janc
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response 271 of 315:
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Jul 20 03:49 UTC 1996 |
There's an idea. Sort of a decoy for anyone who wants to hotchat. And AI
could like hold up *that* conversaton reasonably well. I'm not sure if this
would help though. Would it just encourage people to look for other "people"
who hotchat as well as "bigtits"?
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pfv
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response 272 of 315:
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Jul 20 04:32 UTC 1996 |
hehehe.. yer assuming the callers are smart enough to notice a difference
- big mistake.. Having suffered such dits for months, I can assure you
they'd never notice..
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tsty
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response 273 of 315:
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Jul 20 06:30 UTC 1996 |
any thoughts on the software revision?
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scg
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response 274 of 315:
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Jul 20 08:00 UTC 1996 |
Several of us were talking about such an idea at GNO several months ago. The
idea at that point was to have it really lead the person on for a while, and
then exit with a nasty message, such as, "sex-bot response file corrupted.
Core dumped. Mailing log to staff."
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