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jenna
response 250 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 00:48 UTC 1996

It seems the volunteer has found you
z0mbie
response 251 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 02:24 UTC 1996

EVERYBODY, I will be on a great reduction with grex.  So I cannot do alot to
maintain it.  So, I am jsut gonna wait till I get a telnet, Our phone bill
is WAY to high for me to be on as much as I used to be, So i cannot accept
it, cuz it'll die.  So, I will be baq for it in a while (when I get a good
computer).  So, Ill be seein ya all later, mail me!!!


Kevin

popcorn
response 252 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 05:48 UTC 1996

What city do you live in?
(I'd thought you were here in Ann Arbor).
srw
response 253 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 28 01:49 UTC 1996

Kevin lives in Belleville. It's not very far away. It is a free call to Ypsi,
but not to AA.
rlawson
response 254 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 28 07:44 UTC 1996

I used to read the inbetween conference, and if you're stuck in a bind, I'll
help. But I leave tomorrow for three weeks so if someone else wants to do it
or whatever, just let me know!
omni
response 255 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 05:06 UTC 1996

  
  I would like to propose a "membership" conference where the membership
commitee and others could discuss matters.

 I would be the principal fairwitness, with possibly one or two to be named
at a later date.

kerouac
response 256 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 18:51 UTC 1996

Are t here enough isssues relating to membership to warrant a whole
conference?  You could use the grexnews conf...not much going on with
the newsletter that that conf couldnt be broadened
rcurl
response 257 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 19:52 UTC 1996

First, the grexnews and newsletter cfs are two different cfs (with not
much happening in either). However I think that membership issues are so
entirely different that it should have its own cf if just an item in coop
does not suffice. I would suggest starting with an item in coop, and see
how matters develop, and a cf could be started if it seems necessary. What
are the different items you have in mind for a memberhip cf, omni? 

remmers
response 258 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 20:46 UTC 1996

The context of #255 is that Jim has just been appointed membership
chair of Grex. He wants a place where he and any helpers can talk
about strategies for increasing membership, if I read him right.
If he thinks a conference will help him do his job, it seems like
a reasonbable request to me.
kerouac
response 259 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 20:56 UTC 1996

I suggest that Omni take over the "grex needs to move" conf...that
conf could be renamed the "Membership Issues" conf, of which grex's moving
would certainly be relevant.  As it is, all the items in the "Move" conf are
linked from elsewhere.   Combining make sense, as grex already has too many
empty confs with two or three items in them.

Makes more sense than to merge with grexnews I guess..

rcurl
response 260 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 21:20 UTC 1996

Another cf relationship is with the publicity cf. Most items from a
membership cf would be appropriately linked to publicity. There is
another option for a place to start (the publicity cf also needs some
new life).
scg
response 261 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 22:25 UTC 1996

kerouac seems to have some set idea that omni needs to take over an existing
conference for this, rather than be able to start a new one?  Why?  Why not
start a new one?  Sure, moving and membership are somewhat related, but not
that closely.
kerouac
response 262 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 23:32 UTC 1996

#261....because there are too many confs that are empty or dead
or both.  Having too many too-specific confs takes up space and
confuses people as to where certain discussions are going on.  
There has been some grumbling over the "grex needs to move"
conf, which seems to have been created solely because two or three
people dont want to read coop.  Combining it with 
membership gives it more definition and purpose.  

btw, Ididnt even know there WAS a publicity conf, that could
be combined with grexnews...it doesnt look good to have empty confs
littering the place.
scott
response 263 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 23:41 UTC 1996

The move conf. is going *die* as soon as Grex is safely moved, so it would
be pointless to combine it with some other function.
kerouac
response 264 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 23:53 UTC 1996

ah, but if it was combined, it wouldnt have to die!  A purpose!
srw
response 265 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 02:10 UTC 1996

Better to create new conferences with a new purpose and let old ones die, than
to redefine the mission of a conference to keep it alive.
Grex needs to do a better job of killing and removing old dead conferences.
rcurl
response 266 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 07:09 UTC 1996

There are a lot of good ideas and loads of good information in some of
those "dead" conferences. They are like books on the library shelf that
are currently neglected, but no less valuable for that. What criteria
would you use for burning some of those books, and not others?
tsty
response 267 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 07:44 UTC 1996

a long time a go i proposed a library but as a subdirectory nstead
of a collection of conferences. it would be to the benefit of all (imo)
if (at least) the technical stuff were always available.
scott
response 268 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 10:59 UTC 1996

Well, gee, rane, I'd send mail to the FW's of the storage conf, asking them
to link all the items before I killed my conference.  No books are burned!
remmers
response 269 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 11:35 UTC 1996

Storage conference? What's that?  :)
davel
response 270 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 17:06 UTC 1996

Re #265:  correction.  Grex needs to do *some* kind of job killing & removing
dead conferences.  Currently it does nothing with them.
rcurl
response 271 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 18:02 UTC 1996

More cataloging, reshelving, indexing, etc., would all be very valuable,
but those are things that are nearly unknown in this medium. At best, all
one gets are "links" - good or bad. I really don't suggest keeping
*everything* - just those things of lasting value. But, try to find a
volunteer to sort and choose...hah!
omni
response 272 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 19:26 UTC 1996

 Remmers had it right. 

kerouac
response 273 of 470: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 23:58 UTC 1996

gee I know, why anot combine membership with the cooking conf!
That way anyone who has ideas about membership and a new recipe
for chicken marinara can just post one message!
omni
response 274 of 470: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 04:55 UTC 1996

  I don't think you're getting what I'm aiming to do here. The reason I would
like a conference just for membership is so that discussion of issues will
not interfere with or get sidetracked by, other items in the same conference.
  Space is not an issue, or at least I didn't think it was.
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