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jp2
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response 25 of 76:
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Mar 10 01:16 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 26 of 76:
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Mar 11 10:42 UTC 2002 |
Yeah, it's interesting to see XM finally out-- the buzz had been on it
for a while now, and yes, it did seem geared to the car market.
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keesan
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response 27 of 76:
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Mar 11 16:34 UTC 2002 |
Sirius is also apparently only aimed at cars. They have symphony, chamber,
and vocal classical stations, and also one folk station (in the 'variety'
category). I wonder why nobody has come up with a broadcast radio equivalent
of cable TV that would bring in radio stations from all over the country.
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slynne
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response 28 of 76:
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Mar 11 16:47 UTC 2002 |
They have a cable radio thing that is the radio equivalent of cable tv.
It isnt broadcast but instead comes in on the cable lines that also
bring the tv.
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other
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response 29 of 76:
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Mar 11 16:59 UTC 2002 |
One of the satelite radio systems apparently carries an NPR channel, the
other has no public radio channel at all, which makes it absolutely out
of the question for me, all other objections aside.
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keesan
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response 30 of 76:
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Mar 11 17:39 UTC 2002 |
We went to listen to cable radio at the cable TV company and they did not have
any of the broadcast radio stations, only something created solely for cable
radio use, similar to the satellite digital radio, with about three classical
stations playing selections in random order without commentary. I was hoping
for stations from various places around the country or even better yet the
world, same as can be gotten now with a computer and dedicated phone line or
DSL line.
With three local NPR stations, why have a satellite NPR station?
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other
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response 31 of 76:
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Mar 11 19:38 UTC 2002 |
For those occasions when I travel outside the range of the local
stations. Why else bother with satellite radio?
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krj
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response 32 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:04 UTC 2002 |
Well, for me, the main appeal of satellite radio would be listening to
music programming chosen by people for artistic reasons.
But then, I'm one of a presumed minority of Americans who have
tuned out commercial music radio almost completely, with the very
occasional exception of the classic rock station in Livingston
County, as I drive by it.
The point of Sirius and XM, for me, isn't that they are digital,
or that they are being delivered by satellite: the point is that
they have found a way to bypass the crushing, unimaginative ad-sales
mindset which has taken total possession of land-based radio.
It might be useful to remember that the paying customers of
Clear Channel and the other media corporations are the advertisers;
the listeners are just the product being sold to the advertisers,
and the programming has been relegated to the status of bait.
For XM and Sirius, on the other hand, the paying customers are the
listeners, so the digital satellite people are going to have to keep
their audience excited and happy. It's an HBO approach to radio.
(I still dunno if I'm going to buy into their service. Neither XM
nor Sirius seems to offer a folk music channel which aligns with my
definition of folk music, and listening to the services at home
seems to be difficult, and at work, impossible. The business
consensus which seems to have developed is that radio has dwindled
to an in-car medium for most Americans.)
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krj
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response 33 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:05 UTC 2002 |
((Winter Agora #255 <---> Music #80))
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keesan
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response 34 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:18 UTC 2002 |
I would listen to satellite radio if they played the same things as
non-satellite public classical music stations, of which we no longer have any
local ones. The non-local ones that you can still get on a radio come in
hissy unless you have a very good tuner and listen in mono. And I would also
appreciate stations that did not switch from music to news fro 4 pm to 7:30
pm, meaning stations from the west coast (with a 3-hour offset). And that
did not switch to jazz on weekends, or all play only opera on Saturdays, or
the same canned music from NPR late at night complete with blaring commercials
for other NPR programs.
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slynne
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response 35 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:24 UTC 2002 |
Except for NPR, I only listen to the radio in my car.
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anderyn
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response 36 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:49 UTC 2002 |
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jazz
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response 37 of 76:
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Mar 11 21:49 UTC 2002 |
I'd love to see mobile bandwidth become so common and cheap that you
could subscribe to an internet radio station in your car; I think that'd be
enough to bring me back to radio.
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krj
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response 38 of 76:
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Mar 11 21:54 UTC 2002 |
I would assume we would get there eventually; this would have horrible
implications for the multi-billion dollar satellite investments
made by XM and Sirius.
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flem
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response 39 of 76:
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Mar 12 02:26 UTC 2002 |
One of my coworkers has XM radio. He seems pretty happy with it, though I'm
a little less than impressed with the variety of what I hear from his office.
w.r.t. classical stations, I've still not seen a match for andante.com.
I've started to check out bbc radio a little, based on ken's rantings :) but
I've yet to find any shows that I'm really impressed with. Not ready to give
up yet, though...
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tpryan
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response 40 of 76:
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Mar 12 02:44 UTC 2002 |
94.9fm is classic rock that rocks. The station pats itself on
the back a bit less often, also.
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krj
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response 41 of 76:
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Mar 12 03:31 UTC 2002 |
flem in resp:39 :: are you paying for andante? Can you lay out some
details about their audio operations? I've only used their site to
read text articles.
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krj
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Mar 12 03:49 UTC 2002 |
Also, flem in resp:39 :: can you go into some detail about how
your coworker gets XM Radio in his office? Thanks.
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flem
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response 43 of 76:
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Mar 12 16:56 UTC 2002 |
I'm not paying for Andante. They seem to have a couple of tiers of streaming
audio. "Andante Radio" is free, linked to from the main page. No
commercials, except thirty seconds every half hour or so advertizing their
membership services. These seem to include live concert broadcasts as well as
on-demand streaming of various recordings. I've not really looked into it
a great deal.
My coworker bought an XM unit that can be removed from the car and plugged
into a second adapter/antenna thingy in the office. It has a normal audio
output, that he plugs into a small desktop stereo system. He has had some
trouble with the reception inside the office, but he has a window (pointing
east, I think) and has found (and carefully marked) a couple of spots
near the window that seem to do all right.
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keesan
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response 44 of 76:
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Mar 12 20:27 UTC 2002 |
Can you buy one that is sold for use ONLY without a car? (one not two adaptor
thingies)
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tpryan
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response 45 of 76:
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Mar 12 23:35 UTC 2002 |
This line is hear so I can find the item in general and
forget it there, as agora is about to rap up.
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gull
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response 46 of 76:
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Mar 14 16:53 UTC 2002 |
What scares me about XM is it appears to be a proprietary system. I'd hate
to buy a $300 head unit and have it become a $300 dash filler plate when the
company went out of business.
That and, well, if I want music in the car I don't get on broadcast radio, I
can just use my MP3 player or pop in a cassette.
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dbratman
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response 47 of 76:
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Mar 14 18:14 UTC 2002 |
The original article (sorry to get back to that) may be scary, but no
scarier than those old "pop star interview" LPs I've occasionally seen
in used-record stores. They were distributed to local radio DJs along
with scripts. You, the DJ, read the questions from the script, pop the
needle down on the record appropriately, and - this is almost an exact
quote from the blurb - it'll sound like Famous Star is RIGHT THERE in
the studio with YOU!
Early 60s, most of this stuff, IIRC. Nothing's changed.
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jep
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response 48 of 76:
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Mar 14 18:16 UTC 2002 |
What scares me is that it's proprietary and requires monthly
subscriptions fees. I don't have that much use for coast-to-coast
radio, since I travel out of the state about once per year.
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gull
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response 49 of 76:
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Mar 14 18:52 UTC 2002 |
For me, too, one of the fun parts of travelling is listening to different
radio stations. I particularly like tuning around the AM dial at night. I
can remember driving through Tennessee after dark listening to WABC New York.
It was coming in strong, but with that periodic fading you only hear on
skywave-propegated signals. Fun stuff. :)
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