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Grex > Music1 > #104: KURT COBAIN DEAD AT THE AGE OF 27 |  |
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carson
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response 25 of 134:
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Apr 10 06:48 UTC 1994 |
(new life?!?)
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bubbles
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response 26 of 134:
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Apr 10 06:52 UTC 1994 |
#21, I think we react more to things happening to people we know than to
people we don't. And almost by definition, a celebrity is someone many
people think they know.
I'm reminded of the pro basketball player who announced that he was HIV+.
Some letter writer in Newsweek or the L.A. Times or some such said that
after that, whenever anyone asks you if you personally know anyone with
the virus, you'll have to answer yes. (I think that applies only to fans
of pro basketball and is something of an overstatement, but that's a
nitpick on the general concept.)
I think that, musical merit aside, the comparison to John Lennon may be
valid in that both died suddenly and both had fans who were shocked and
saddened by that, almost as if it had happened to a personal friend. In
other words, a comparison of their deaths, not a comparison of their
music.
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kimba
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response 27 of 134:
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Apr 10 07:00 UTC 1994 |
John Lennon died at the hand of someone else. Kurt Cobain died of his own
hand and own free will. Anyone who can't "deal" with fame, fortune or life
in general should never be heralded as a hero of any sort, and that's exactly
what the media is doing! Even 89X was having a "Come Down to Club X and dance
the night away in Memory of Kurt...you can even sign a scroll for him"! Oh,
this is a real mature and realistic view of life....just like Kurt,eh fans?
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matts
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response 28 of 134:
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Apr 10 07:02 UTC 1994 |
heroin, any one?
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none
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response 29 of 134:
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Apr 10 14:27 UTC 1994 |
It was a crazy thing to do. The guy was crazy.
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aruba
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response 30 of 134:
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Apr 10 16:46 UTC 1994 |
This seems to have turned into an item bashing everyone who has ever
committed suicide or considered it. I'm not one of Kurt's fans, but
when I hear about something like this, I have more compassion than I'm
reading here, and none of the disgust. Kimba: "Anyone who can't \"deal\"
with fame, fortune, or life in general should never be heralded as a
hero of any sort". I don't buy that. There have been a lot of people in
our history who have had trouble dealing with the world and yet were
very admirable; Winston Churchill and Eleanor Roosevelt come to mind
as people who went through deep depressions in their lives, yet whom
many people looked upon as heroes (and rightly so, I think).
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matts
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response 31 of 134:
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Apr 10 18:21 UTC 1994 |
did winston blow hi shead of with a 12 guage?
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davidtg
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response 32 of 134:
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Apr 10 18:39 UTC 1994 |
re #6...
>too bad mtv killed him...
can we spell rationalizing?
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rogue
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response 33 of 134:
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Apr 10 21:42 UTC 1994 |
#18: What a concept -- making money. I have never, ever, ever thought that
MTV (or any other for-profit organization) has a goal of making money.
Wierd shit...
#23: Kurt Cobain is *NOT* my hero. I liked his music, but Cobain is
*NOT* my hero, my role model, and has not influenced my thinking of
lifestyle in the slightest.
#26: In the overall scheme of things, Kurt Cobain is nothing compared to
John Lennon.
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randall
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response 34 of 134:
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Apr 11 05:41 UTC 1994 |
I couldn't believe it when they compared him to John Lennon. GIve me a break!
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robh
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response 35 of 134:
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Apr 11 10:32 UTC 1994 |
No, give me a break. To Generation X, he was like Lennon. He
vocalized everything that was on our mind, he helped us
realize that we weren't the only ones who thought life was basically
fucked up. If you don't see it, fine, that's your problem.
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md
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response 36 of 134:
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Apr 11 13:37 UTC 1994 |
Lead a fucked-up life and then tell everyone that life is fucked up.
My personal spokesperson is the anonymous waitress who answered
John Lennon's "Do you know who I am?" with "Yeah, you're an asshole
with a Kotex stuck to his head."
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rogue
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response 37 of 134:
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Apr 11 14:25 UTC 1994 |
#35: Musically, he is insignificant compared to Lennon.
Also, Cobain made me realize nothing, so don't speak for everyone.
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robh
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response 38 of 134:
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Apr 11 20:33 UTC 1994 |
So you're not part of Generation X, not in the figurative
snese. No big deal, if anything I envy you.
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bdp
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response 39 of 134:
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Apr 11 21:27 UTC 1994 |
I'm part of Generation X (unfortunately) and do not like to be lumped together
with people who actually *like* Grunge rock and think it really means
something.
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rogue
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response 40 of 134:
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Apr 11 22:47 UTC 1994 |
#39: I like grunge rock, but I don't think it means anything.
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power
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response 41 of 134:
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Apr 11 23:35 UTC 1994 |
Cobain did kind of start (or at least popularize) a new movement of music
(grunge), so his death is sad for that. It will be interesting to see
what effect his death has on his fame, at any rate :)....
<The Power diplomatically avoiding another long discussion on the value
of different sorts of music>
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carl
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response 42 of 134:
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Apr 12 00:50 UTC 1994 |
(I don't want to sound like a dummy, but what is Generation X?)
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omni
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response 43 of 134:
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Apr 12 02:07 UTC 1994 |
Generation X is the name for those who are 20 something now. Anyone born
after 1970 is a Gen Xer. I myself, am a baby boomer (the gen was said to
end on Dec 31 1960) and I was born on Nov 27 of that year.
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cain
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response 44 of 134:
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Apr 12 02:16 UTC 1994 |
Yeah, he's dead. Big Whopp!
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scg
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response 45 of 134:
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Apr 12 03:43 UTC 1994 |
re 35:
He did?
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popcorn
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response 46 of 134:
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Apr 12 04:00 UTC 1994 |
Dang. If the baby boom ends in 1960 and the generation X starts in
1970, where does that leave us folks who were born in between?
I was under the impression that there was a baby boom, followed
many years later by their kids, the baby boomlet, and anybody
born inbetween (including me) was a member of Generation X,
the generation with no great claim to fame except for growing up
forgotten in the great demographic shadow of the baby boom.
(Re 35: I never heard of Kurt until he OD'd a couple of weeks ago.)
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bdp
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response 47 of 134:
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Apr 12 04:09 UTC 1994 |
1960-1970s: "Wedgies" :)
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raven
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response 48 of 134:
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Apr 12 06:19 UTC 1994 |
No, no, no (3 times no), Gen-x starts after 1960 and goes to sometime
in the seventies according to 13th gen a book about gen-x. I'm gen-x
being age 27,the same age as Kurt Cobain, so his death has some resonance for
me even though I'm not a huge Nirvana fan (I did buy Nevermind tape in
92).
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randall
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response 49 of 134:
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Apr 12 06:56 UTC 1994 |
Excuse me. Lennon=Genius, Talent. Cobain=Moron, No worth as a human being.
There you have it.
You be the judge.
I just didn't like him, he seemed like an asshole with a dirty mop on his head
and a Freddy Krueger sweater. "I'm glad you dead!"
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