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polygon
response 25 of 60: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 07:14 UTC 1991

WEA?
mcnally
response 26 of 60: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 08:08 UTC 1991

  The truly gigantic recording industry monstrosity that includes (among
myriad smaller labels, I imagine) Warner, Elektra, and Atlantic.
krj
response 27 of 60: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 10:44 UTC 1991

Perhaps this is the place to repeat my list of the Six Major Labels and 
who owns them:
  Sony Music       Formerly Columbia, but that name is quickly turning 
                   into simply a designation for the pop/rock operation.
  WEA              Warner Elektra Atlantic.  Owned by Time Warner, which 
                   according to a recent news article is shopping for a 
                   foreign partner.
  MCA              I have a naggins suspicion that they have recently been
                   purchased by the Japanese conglomerate Matsushita, but
                   I'm not sure.
  BMG              Formerly RCA, which is now just a part of the German
                   Bertlesmann Music Group
  Capitol          Owned by a conglomerate called CEMA, possibly British?
  Polygram         Venerable Dutch operation, part of the Philips empire
Each of these labels has a little flock of smaller labels which they either
control, or else provide manufacturing and distribution for.
mcnally
response 28 of 60: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 09:46 UTC 1991

  So apart from a few albums like Sting's "The Soul Cages", Bonnie
Raitt's "Luck of the Draw", a couple of other albums, and many, many
CD singles, has anyone spotted any new releases arriving in digipaks,
eco-paks, or other cardboard packaging?  When is WEA supposed to 
switch over?
krj
response 29 of 60: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 07:00 UTC 1991

WEA is supposed to switch over to "Eco"-paks on April 1, 1992. 
 
I saw another cardboard-packaged CD in the used store I was in tonight:
Susanna Hoffs' "When You're A Boy".
krj
response 30 of 60: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 07:31 UTC 1991

The new domestic R.E.M. CD single, "Radio Song", is packaged in one of 
those yucky cardboard packs.  Sigh.  I've been hoping I'd see an import
in a jewel box, but no such luck yet.  (Did you realize that there have been
at least 7 CD singles issued from the OUT OF TIME album, to date?)
mcnally
response 31 of 60: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 11:51 UTC 1991

  Can you say "greed"?  I knew you could...  The $10 CD-single scam
R.E.M. (or Warner, or whoever..) has been running is pretty annoying.
Why couldn't they just release an album with all the "bonus tracks"?
hawkeye
response 32 of 60: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 15:19 UTC 1991

That's what "Dead Letter Office" was/is.  Maybe they'll release something
like that again in another 3-4 albums???
mcnally
response 33 of 60: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 09:10 UTC 1991

  Why not now..  They've certainly got an album's-worth by now..
krj
response 34 of 60: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 19:51 UTC 1991

R.E.M. had an additional album's worth that didn't go on DEAD LETTER
OFFICE...  mostly live versions.
ty
response 35 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 18:20 UTC 1992

I agree with Mike.  G-r-e-e-d
krj
response 36 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 08:06 UTC 1992

It's been reported that Tower Records was only going to carry the 
cardboard *-pak version of the new U2 album, which is available in 
both cardboard and jewel box packaging.  That isn't strictly true, at
least in Ann Arbor; Tower here is offering both versions.  However, they
are charging an extra buck for the jewel box version, in spite of the 
widespread reports that the jewel box is cheaper to produce.
My paranoid soul is convinced they are comparing the sales of the two
formats, having stacked the deck in favor of the cardboard *-pak.
mcnally
response 37 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 08:26 UTC 1992

  Hopefully they'll look at their results and decide that a substantial
number of people despise the digipaks enough that they'll submit to an
atrocious gouging not to have to deal with them.  More likely they're
gearing up to wage a campaign to get people to think that CDs in jewel
boxes are more expensive.
mcnally
response 38 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 09:49 UTC 1992

  Does anyone know when WEA is supposed to switch completely over to 
"ecopaks"?  It's probably too late to change things now, but is there
anyone left making a last effort to stop them?
krj
response 39 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 16:39 UTC 1992

April 1 is the announced cutover date.  After that, anything I *have* to have
on WEA, I buy from Canada, or if Free Trade means the Canadians get the
crap-paks too, from Europe.  Speculative buying of WEA artists stops then.
I've been trying to think who's on WEA who I just couldn't give up; so far
all I can think of are R.E.M. and Luka Bloom.
mcnally
response 40 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 04:43 UTC 1992

  It was discouraging when I was in Wherehouse today..  I saw quite
a few discs that had been released in digipaks or ecopaks.  It's a bad
sign.

  I don't know if I feel strongly enough about it to refuse to buy 
a WEA release if it's an album I really want, but I have to admit that
those artists on WEA that I might otherwise pick up on a lark are going
to have a lot harder time competing for my record dollars.
bad
response 41 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 18:05 UTC 1992

What means "digipaks" and "ecopaks", again?
mcnally
response 42 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 22:55 UTC 1992

  El-cheapo (not really, supposedlyt they cost marginally more than
jewel boxes..) cardboard CD packaging, ala Sting's "the Soul Cages",
Bonnie Raitt's "Luck of the Draw", or U2's "Achtung Baby!"
krj
response 43 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 07:12 UTC 1992

I'm sure if I closely compared the "digipak" and the "ecopak", I could 
learn the differences between them, but they're all cardboard "crap-paks"
to me!!!  :-)
krj
response 44 of 60: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 08:46 UTC 1992

Rumor central:  Several Usenet writers quote a Billboard story reporting
that WEA is backpedaling on their plan to convert all CD packaging to 
the cardboard "eco"-pak on April 1.  The Usenet articles say that WEA
has found that the cardboard packaging costs more than the jewel box, 
and WEA is also worried about the consumer hostility they've encountered.
More details after I see a copy of the Billboard story firsthand.
goose
response 45 of 60: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 09:23 UTC 1992

Alright! I could never see how that paper thingie was supposed to
be better than a jewel box.
mcnally
response 46 of 60: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 10:23 UTC 1992

  That means that now's the time to make a big push..  Who has an
address for WEA?
steve
response 47 of 60: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 08:34 UTC 1992

   Ahem: Who has the address?  Its still worth writing them an *bitching*.
arabella
response 48 of 60: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 22:35 UTC 1992

Is there any new news on the digipak controversy?  Any chance
some of us can be helpful by protesting their use?
krj
response 49 of 60: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 04:17 UTC 1992

The latest on CD packaging:  Sony Music has started shipping CDs which are
all ready for the elimination of the outer longbox on 4/1/93.  Inside the 
longbox, the CDs are sealed with a holographic sticker and then shrink-
wrapped.  Come 4/1, store staff just strip off the longboxes of the stock 
on hand and re-rack the discs in the new fixtures.
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