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loperbd
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response 25 of 57:
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Apr 26 22:33 UTC 2002 |
It's even more fanatastic Maria Lopez lives in Groningen that's a town
in my country. I think she got the url of Grex from my own url with a
special project, I told there about Grex. And Maria mailed me a minute
ago. The members of my project have a better view on me than you Glenda.
Was it hurting for you I told about a more ideal marriage than you have?
But then that posting wasn't for you but mainly for people with a not
nice childhood. Keep better a low profile. Now I was forced to tell
much about details. And I agree with Maria, I posted all in honesty and
if you posted a lot new items nothing bad would have happened then. In
your eyes I posted only too much. Why didn't you tell me that? It were
certainly honest meant good items.
When I talk about serious brain deseases as West's syndrome and Lennox
Gastaut how important is my language then and I admit with typos on
purpose.
This is really my last posting.
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loperbd
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response 26 of 57:
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Apr 26 23:03 UTC 2002 |
Google Lennox Gastaut
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cmcgee
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response 27 of 57:
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Apr 27 01:48 UTC 2002 |
Gosh, I wonder who forced him to "tell much about details"?
And who made him emperor to tell Valerie to resume her postings?
And why he has had so many "last" postings?
And why he didn't get it when we told him he was posting too much?
And why he wanted women who had been abused to email him so he could
"cure" their problem? Soliciting vulnerable victims, isolating them
from others, and then berating them when they don't continue the
harmful conversations is about as predatory and abusive as you can get
online.
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happyboy
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response 28 of 57:
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Apr 27 13:47 UTC 2002 |
and why are all your panties so bunched?
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sarafee
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response 29 of 57:
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Apr 27 15:22 UTC 2002 |
I don't understand you. Is there so much hate. Why, if I look at
different postings, I like. I came here and I leave Grex immediately.
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sarafee
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response 30 of 57:
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Apr 27 20:15 UTC 2002 |
Please delete my id. Unscribling goes wrong.
I want to leave this ungly woman conferance. I shame me deep for the
women Glenda and cmcgee. cmcgee why you don't see why someone has to
describe more in detail. Are you blind with you bad posting, all was I
see you hate someone, who had forgiven you. Glenda and cmcgeed they
know perfecty why. I agree completely the the men. Yes shame you women.
And Edina you were complete wrong. No I'll never want promote this
fighting women conference as someone has done for you. What a women!?
Never to meet you again.
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happyboy
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response 31 of 57:
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Apr 28 13:53 UTC 2002 |
8D
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mart
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response 32 of 57:
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Apr 28 14:47 UTC 2002 |
I've gotten the strange feeling this cf is in trouble. I know ed has
hardly any respect for my profession, but i will try to read all
connected postings.
First i noticed i did expect at least 6 new women members and 2 men.
But didn't see any posting of them.
I'm a man, 55 years old, i'm martin.
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mart
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response 33 of 57:
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Apr 28 19:09 UTC 2002 |
I read many posting. Only one item goes on, Valeries good item. So I
think really this cf is in trouble.
I tell you know my ideas about what had happened. Deleted text weren't
helpful.
This text will not be nice for some women. They probably know already
who I see not well for this cf.
First I have to say. I can’t formulate like ed. I will be rougher, easy
make errors. I’ve no easy and good solutions. This is a first analysis
what has happened.
1. It’s for me clear ed deleted too many posts of himself. He regretted
himself the posting of only one text of him. Probably he had better
done deleting further nothing.
Ed had problems with improving texts, indeed an error of the system
made him to do this. For instance when another posts something, a
posting can’t succeed.
Ed had better use another word-processor. It’s a very pity, #108 has
gone.
#108 was the first posting of ed, and I think it was a maybe more
detailed copy of his profile. Some references to #108 point to that.
I’ve read all postings of ed, the posting he replied and those who
replied to him. And the following picture arises.
2. No one could criticize his ideas about a better, even much better
form of marriage.
No one can know about what he was telling. The long postings about the
same subject indicates it’s not just a dream. Ed says he received
mails, who believed him.
I see this critic as the beginning of all the fighting. The critic was
not rationally, but maybe based on fears.
With new things it’s very normal we temporarily believe it, till the
opposite shows up. This principle wasn't found in this cf.
The critic on ed’s English was counterproductive. He wrote every time
worse. While later he shows, he can write with only a few errors.
3. It was not good ed played with this.
4. Tensions rose. And ed went on with posting. That a clash about a
text that had to be deleted early according ed. Ed defends him very
good and in my eyes impressive. After that only two women reacted
positively. And I think that was very good.
There was a good woman maybe giving ed language hints and other good
woman by posting some reaction, but she stopped with that too early.
Ed posted good items and many of the women felt his dominance. If one
reads ed’s postings, ed doesn’t want that at all.
5. In my eyes when you had normally replied his items, you would see he
wasn’t dominant at all. By isolating ed and by isolating yourself this
feeling that ed had taken over the cf was growing. By just posting
more, you would see nothing of dominance would have stayed. Ed
said "use me".
6. Quite suddenly one woman attacked ed again. And that was completely
negative. After ed’s writing he showed he found it awful to write
against people he liked, this posting has to be called as only bad.
There were more negative posters one turning the truth upside down, but
only due to not communicating with ed, I think.
Didn’t ed say not communicating causes this kind of bad tensions.
Didn’t he tell some behaviors reversed the truth?
7. Most other items are dealing with our lives. Ed proposed to do a
step to get a better US society and to help abused children. Some
people saw that was extremely important. Ed is very intelligent and
some women have hated that. But that other woman hardly intervened,
only one time, “ed was no predator”, which is completely true when you
read all Ed’s postings.
I don’t know a solution for this cf. But I see what I’ve written here
as close to the truth.
Yes ed would probably show immediately a good solution, but you have
sent him away.
I know this posting will be difficult for some women, I hope others
will thinks about it.
I'm prepared to leave Grex. But see this posting as an impression of an
independent person.
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slynne
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response 34 of 57:
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Apr 28 21:05 UTC 2002 |
I think it is kind of funny that Glenda feels it is totally ok to tell
loperbd and all the other men in this conference that they are
basically not welcome while being critical that he entered an item
asking valerie to unfreeze her item. I guess she feels she is the only
one who can tell others what to do? I am concerned that other men
might not feel welcome to discuss issues here. Since most men I know
have women in their lives, I think it is *perfectly* appropriate for
them to post here. I see this conference as a place for EVERYONE to
discuss WOMEN'S issues. Frankly if I went to the homme conference and a
guy there told me that I wasnt welcome to participate in their "all-
boys club", I would be very angry about that.
If you find this loperbd so annoying, why dont you just ignore him? I
think valerie's item freezing solution has been good for her item. None
of the other items were active before anyway.
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mart
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response 35 of 57:
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Apr 28 21:11 UTC 2002 |
If too many women can't accept my impression then I see the only good
solution to close this women cf. All new members see this probably as I
it see. It then it's maybe better to start a new women cf only open for
women. The hate to men is too large.
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mart
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response 36 of 57:
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Apr 28 21:28 UTC 2002 |
I don't see loperbd as annoying. He maybe has, I'm half convinced, but
he maybe has a splendid solution. But I know he doesn't like my
profession. I'm too weak in ideas and probably in my writings. But that
loperbd deleted too much that I see as not well. But he must have felt
very disappointed. I think that's the reason of all what he did.
I'm very sorry for Valerie. I didn't know it was a so tender spot.
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remmers
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response 37 of 57:
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Apr 28 21:35 UTC 2002 |
Techie note: The !laston command reveals that loperbd, marialop,
sarafee, and mart all post from the same IP address.
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slynne
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response 38 of 57:
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Apr 28 21:38 UTC 2002 |
Why am I not shocked by that information?
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vera
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response 39 of 57:
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Apr 29 08:29 UTC 2002 |
I'm Vera, I'm a woman realted to Martin Hessels. I will only one time
post in this conference. I agree competely with #33.
I think if all women want a solution, there's only one. Not what Martin
proposes in #35. I think there's only one good solutions and that's
solving.
#37 that is true. It's a network. This posting will use the same IP.
I will now tell my only solution. It is, try to ask loperbd to come
back.
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mart
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response 40 of 57:
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Apr 29 09:28 UTC 2002 |
#37 technie note. I'm not aquainted to loperpd, only to Vera. And I
stick to what I've posted. It's not in my interest, is it.
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mart
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response 41 of 57:
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Apr 29 09:36 UTC 2002 |
#37, you can only see the ip of a large provider. It will change if we
will use ipv 6.
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mart
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response 42 of 57:
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Apr 29 12:41 UTC 2002 |
I will post now and then. I hope you see then that loper wrote long
sentences. Difficult and maybe literary. I write much simpler. I would
like if I had the brains of loper.
Techniques are not everywhere the same, John.
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remmers
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response 43 of 57:
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Apr 29 13:15 UTC 2002 |
Oh, please don't worry. I think you *do* have the brains of loper. :)
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mart
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response 44 of 57:
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Apr 29 13:23 UTC 2002 |
I would really hope so. But I've no idea for a new item. It's difficult
to post more than I do now. That's not much.
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happyboy
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response 45 of 57:
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Apr 29 15:29 UTC 2002 |
*whoosh*
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mart
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response 46 of 57:
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Apr 29 15:57 UTC 2002 |
People don't you see that a provider can change the ip. That ip's don't
have to be unique up to the user in reality. Locally my ip is known and
unique, made by network-translation. Not well for my provider. I hope
this ends soon, for it gives now more errors for me as well.
I've complete my own mind.
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happyboy
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response 47 of 57:
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Apr 29 16:20 UTC 2002 |
CONGRATS!
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dea
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response 48 of 57:
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Apr 29 23:09 UTC 2002 |
when a group of logins come in from the same ISP, and have the same grammer
issues, and the same distinct problems with english i tend to think they are
the same person, on top of that this group of logins even share the same ideals
of "helping women" through horribly mangled english. I submit that loper and
you're multiple logins are nothing more then a pervert male trying to have fun
messing around with people, whats even more sick you decided to pick a specific
target, namely women who have had hardships in thier life, more to the point
younger life hardships, which is just sick. It must be sad to have to live
with you're self, or maybe you just dont realize how shallow you really are how
SAD
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mart
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response 49 of 57:
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Apr 30 03:22 UTC 2002 |
You think that, but it's not true. I've not the same ideals, I've
another profession, indeed for helping. But I think it's better not
defend me further. You are just not convinced. My wife said did you see
loper wrote literary? Bye Damon.
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