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albaugh
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response 25 of 57:
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Jul 24 16:02 UTC 1996 |
FYI, you can enter "motd" at any time to see the motd [file]. It appears
to scroll just fine for me via telnet; I don't know how well-behaved it
might be for Xterm...
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scg
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response 26 of 57:
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Jul 25 03:46 UTC 1996 |
Xterm is its own terminal type, I think.
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popcorn
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response 27 of 57:
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Jul 25 22:08 UTC 1996 |
Oh. Last time I used an xterm, it used vt100 emulation.
Re 25: "motd" shows the main motd, though not the ICnet note, nor the birthday
list.
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gull
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response 28 of 57:
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Jul 26 03:03 UTC 1996 |
The version of xterm I've got emulates a VT102, I believe. It has other
odd behaviors, most of which can be corrected by resizing the window after
I've connected to Grex.
I think I'm going to use the .hushlogin suggestion, and simply put the
diff and cp commands *after* my terminal settings are set. That should do
it.
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kerouac
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response 29 of 57:
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Jul 26 19:17 UTC 1996 |
speaking of the motd...if grex is going to be down for mail
processing, at a specific time, why is that only posted after the
fact and not before? Might have been nice if someone had put in
the motd, "we're taking grex down for mail processing on Friday
around noon, please be advised"
posting that info after the fact does very little good
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ajax
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response 30 of 57:
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Jul 26 20:46 UTC 1996 |
That's not a planned event, it's a response to an unexpected
problem, so much forewarning isn't possible. I was happy to
see there was an announcement *during* the mail processing,
after which you were logged out, rather than just having Grex
not answer or connect. That's a nice procedure.
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pfv
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response 31 of 57:
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Jul 26 20:55 UTC 1996 |
A better procedure would simply run in place of login and drop the carrier
<shrug> It's a waste to get logged in to log you off
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bjorn
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response 32 of 57:
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Jul 26 21:45 UTC 1996 |
That's what auto-messages are for - If it's known Grex is going down, those
users who are on are warned a few minutes prior to the event.
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pfv
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response 33 of 57:
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Jul 26 22:09 UTC 1996 |
Nope - re-parse my statement, bitte...
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robh
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response 34 of 57:
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Jul 26 22:21 UTC 1996 |
Re 29 - I shut off logins for mail processing, and as ajax
said, I didn't have *time* to put up a message in the motd.
This was *not* a planned event, OK? If it had been, I would
have warned people.
<robh really wishes kerouac knew more about how computers worked>
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scg
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response 35 of 57:
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Jul 27 05:15 UTC 1996 |
I agree that it would probably be more convenienient for Grex to kick people
off before they get to the login prompt when Grex isn't allowing people to
log in, but there would be big problems with doing things that way. Grex
needs to give a login prompt and allow people to give their login and
password, so that it can continue to let staffers in while logins are
disallowed for the rest of the world. Otherwise, the staff wouldn't be able
to log in and allow the rest of the world back on when Grex is done dealing
with the mail.
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pfv
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response 36 of 57:
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Jul 27 17:35 UTC 1996 |
hmmm..... Good point - I shoulda' seen that.. My apologies.
Somehow, between reading this Jamsa book and fretting over dialogs/windows
and what all, I sorta forgot that simple point ;-)
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kerouac
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response 37 of 57:
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Jul 27 18:43 UTC 1996 |
couldnt there be a "staff.cyberspace.org" which is grex but with a
different login routine that would put staff into grex in one mode
or another and allow the regular "login" to be down?
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scott
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response 38 of 57:
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Jul 27 22:23 UTC 1996 |
Well, it's possible, but likely way too much work to implement. I'd rather
have the "nologin" file so that people know when to try back.
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sidhe
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response 39 of 57:
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Jul 28 04:26 UTC 1996 |
Not to mention that it would seem to me that such a seperate venue
would put staff closer to that dreaded state of elitism that kerouac seems
to deplore. After all, if it were there for staffers in emrgencies, it
could also be used to bypass the queque, could it not?
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scg
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response 40 of 57:
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Jul 28 05:24 UTC 1996 |
This has nothing to do with the motd, but there are plans in the works, as
part of Marcus's new telnetd, to allow logins from Grex's local subnet to
bypass the queue. The main use of that will be for the terminal server, so
that people dialing up to Grex's dial-up lines don't end up stuck in the
queue, but it will also mean that staffers will be able to telnet in from
gryps or some other machine in Grex's subnet. This is very much needed.
Otherwise, we could end up with something breaking and staffers not being able
to get in and work on it.
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albaugh
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response 41 of 57:
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Jul 28 05:37 UTC 1996 |
Actually, as silly as it may sound, you could display an information message
saying what's up *and* that you will automatically be logged off if you
desire to proceed anyway...
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ajax
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response 42 of 57:
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Aug 9 21:03 UTC 1996 |
Does anybody have a problem with sticking a "thanks to..." message in the
motd for a couple days, to two businesses that recently donated equipment
to Grex?
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pfv
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response 43 of 57:
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Aug 9 21:16 UTC 1996 |
hell no, ajax..
To do LESS than that is nigh unto rude AND suicidal!
Besides, such firms should be noted and DESERVE more business..
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arthurp
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response 44 of 57:
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Aug 10 00:38 UTC 1996 |
True, I would love t hear who they are.
Thanks to them, too!
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chelsea
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response 45 of 57:
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Aug 10 03:38 UTC 1996 |
Go for it! ;-)
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ajax
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response 46 of 57:
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Aug 10 15:00 UTC 1996 |
Ok, I added it. The reason I thought it mentioned it is its hint of
"advertising in exchange for donations." That could be taken too far,
but I think this is pretty far from crossing the line.
I also put in a plug for an Indian BBS that recently went to a free
system (except a per-kilobyte Internet e-mail charge, as it costs the sysop
about the same price to retrieve it). Given our large Indian user base,
and the discussion here of what Grex could do to help domestic Indian
systems, I figured this would be useful. I've talked to the sysop on Grex
before. He'd like to offer inbound telnet access and other services, but
it sounds like the government-granted 5-year Internet monopoly in India
makes a lot of services difficult or impossible. He's currently got one
dial-in, and one dial-out (for e-mail), and plans to have two dial-ins as
soon as there's demand for it. Gotta start somewhere! :-) The BBS has been
around a while, but was for-pay, as are the other three BBSes he knows of
in Calcutta. He said he thinks there are only 20-25 BBSes in all of India.
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pfv
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response 47 of 57:
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Aug 11 00:01 UTC 1996 |
They get email-for-fees? Sounds like a marvelous plan.. Grex could soak
their "EI Friends" and donate the funds to some deserving EI BBS
affiliate! 8^>
Still sounds like they should be working to free up their own systems
rather than fleeing to other systems, though..
Cahill wants to start an Asian/EI conf on Mnut.. Perhaps there should be
one here as well.. Then, all the EI users can discuss solutions to their
"infrastructural" bottlenecks..
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mta
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response 48 of 57:
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Aug 11 19:38 UTC 1996 |
Given the structure of GREX, if they wanted to do so, they would probably
already be doing so.
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pfv
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response 49 of 57:
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Aug 12 01:07 UTC 1996 |
Yes, I know...
I was trying my hand at being "fair" and "liberal-minded"...
Total failure, eh? *sigh* Tell 'em all to go home then ;-)
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