response 25 of 98:

Jul 4 08:12 UTC 1996

That could be a problem, as Grex has no owner.  >8)  Would a member
of the Board of Directors be sufficient?

response 27 of 98:

Jul 4 12:47 UTC 1996

If there are any circumstances in which this information will
not be kept confidential it would be a good idea to include that
in the note.  And there are circumstances which would require
Grex to give up this information, some known and some unknown.

Please be careful what you promise in Grex's name.

response 29 of 98:

Jul 4 22:19 UTC 1996

Mary has a point.  We can't guarantee that we will never give out that
information.  Indeed, we may be legally required to do so.  For example, if
we were someone were to dispute the results of an election, we may have to
surrender the membership list.

I do, however, think that we could guarantee that we will not divulge the
information, except when legally required to do so.

response 31 of 98:

Jul 5 07:39 UTC 1996

A *promise* isn't necessary. If Grex wants to address the issue, it should
adopt a *policy*, and that policy has to include release of the
information if required by law, or in the event of violation of net
conditions of use. I can't think of any other circumstances that would
require the use of user information without the necessary assent of the
user. 

response 33 of 98:

Jul 5 15:50 UTC 1996

while we're at advertising for memberships howbout this
We do something like gift certificates only with memberships.  We could have
a contest for who could design the best certificate.  The winner <decided by
a vote of some kind would get maybe a free membership for a month.    The
certificate should have the dial in number, the telnet adress, and all the
benifits you get on it.  People would buy these certificates to give to other
friends, etc as gifts for their birthday, christmas, chanakuh <I know I
probably spelled that wrong> mothers day, fathers day, whatever.  It'd be a
good way to sell a lot more memberships.  Then once people have tried it and
if they like it it'd incourage them to renew their memberships.  "gift
memberships" if you will.

response 35 of 98:

Jul 5 17:40 UTC 1996

I think the idea of gift memberships is a good one.  I don't know about
giving away a month's membership for the winner of the contest; we'd have to
talk about that one.  Certainly whover designs the certificate should have
their name printed on it ("Certificate designed by ...").

response 37 of 98:

Jul 6 03:31 UTC 1996

 I'll toss my hat in the ring. I think I know what Grex needs since I've been
logging into this thing for the last 4 years. I don't have any degree in
marketing, but I can sell things. 

response 39 of 98:

Jul 6 07:43 UTC 1996

Gift memberships seem to me to be a good idea. "Membership" in Grex
represents a personal committment (though one does not have to *do*
anything), but a "one-month trial certificate" that is also a membership,
will require that the recipient make that committment, in order to
remain a member. The certificate should carry the valid period - and
what to do to continue the membership. In a way, monthly memberships
are not really memberships until they continue for three months (when
the member gains the right to vote), so this would not be giving people
legal membership when they are unaware of it.

response 41 of 98:

Jul 6 14:53 UTC 1996

If they're going to work to attract more members we can probably work
osmething out but I don't really think it'll be necessary.  And let omni be
the membership chair.  I think I'd probably do much better just on the
commitee.  I don't have much experience with these things.  Should I post an
item for the creation of the certificate.  
#39 that's what I'm saying they get how ever long was payed for and then can
renew it if  they really want tom make the commitment hey can renew and choose
to continue

response 43 of 98:

Jul 6 16:15 UTC 1996

Right. I was agreeing with you!   Come to think of it, the ideal
certificate might be a two (2) months membership. $12 is a modest but
nice gift ($6 is for cheapskates...  8^>), and a two months membership
does not create a fully franchised member unless the person wishes to 
continue on their own.

response 45 of 98:

Jul 6 17:32 UTC 1996

yes sounds good.  Howbout the contest for the desing what about this.  We
desing them between now and the 5 the year aneversary and vote on them there
or at the next board meeting?

response 47 of 98:

Jul 6 21:35 UTC 1996

Currently the staff does make use of information that is kept on-line.

Membership information is held by the treasurer and not kept on Grex.
No one, staff or other,  has ever asked for this information as far as I know.
The purpose for having it is primarily so that an individual whose membership
was revoked due to misbehavior would not be able to recreate the membership.

Actually no member has ever done anything that would result in revocation of 
membership. Using Grex for illegal activity, or refusing to comply with
requests not to abuse the privileges of membership would probably be 
sufficient to trigger revocation.

There is no desire to turn membership information over to authorities
under any circumstances, but I would imagine we'd have to do so if ordered 
by a court.

response 49 of 98:

Jul 6 21:47 UTC 1996

#47 slipped in.
  
andin response thereto; you can't turn over what you never possess.