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Grex > Coop8 > #60: New Machine, Unfriendy troubles | |
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tsty
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response 25 of 52:
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May 9 10:45 UTC 1996 |
with a level response field the most amaaaaaaazing thingz can happen.
<ditto chuckle@#20>
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mdw
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response 26 of 52:
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May 11 07:26 UTC 1996 |
The 2 minute delay was put in to deal with "attack telnet"'s. There
were too many people running scripts that must have read something like:
while: ; telnet cyberspace.org; done
without the delay, this essentially meant something like 30% of all the
grex CPU (plus an undetermined amount of network bandwidth) was going to
searching for pty ports, expensively, then telling the attack telnet's,
"no more ports". I don't know about you, but as a greedy grex user, *I*
think that's pretty excessive, and the 2 minute delay was the easiest
thing I could put in. I've since implemented a much nicer version; it
still needs a tad more work, but at this point I'm basically waiting for
feedback on how well the current version works, and spare time to
actually finish it up.
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tsty
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response 27 of 52:
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May 12 14:34 UTC 1996 |
that's not a particular aggrevation now that we know the details. It
sure *seemed* to be a nuisance though. maybe 60-90 seconds would work
as well while minimizing the aggrevation?
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popcorn
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response 28 of 52:
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May 12 16:27 UTC 1996 |
Marcus? Feedback from who? I'd be glad to try it out, if it's somewhere
accessible....
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jep
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response 29 of 52:
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May 13 16:23 UTC 1996 |
I hate the delay, Marcus, but I'm glad to have the explanation for it
now. Is there a way you can tell incoming telnet users who get turned
away about the delay? I thought something was hanging until I saw your
explanation.
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tsty
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response 30 of 52:
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May 15 09:22 UTC 1996 |
same here .... fwiw.
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selena
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response 31 of 52:
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May 18 19:27 UTC 1996 |
Well I know WHY the delay's there now, and I think it's unnecessary harassment
of those of us who are unlucky unenough to try and telnet here when it's busy!
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arthurp
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response 32 of 52:
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May 19 01:05 UTC 1996 |
The damage to the usability of grex resulting from attack telneting is an
unnecessary harassment of all the users of grex.
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brighn
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response 33 of 52:
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May 19 03:10 UTC 1996 |
Spoken like someone with local call modem range to Grex. =}
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gregc
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response 34 of 52:
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May 19 05:18 UTC 1996 |
Actually, aurthurp's response was spoken like someone who has some regard
for the needs of the whole system and all the users, rather than his
own needs.
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brighn
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response 35 of 52:
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May 19 15:11 UTC 1996 |
Precisely why Arthurp for a long time, including during a protion of
the telnetd problem in question, was using three logins at once.
Greg, get off it.
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carson
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response 36 of 52:
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May 19 18:58 UTC 1996 |
...and doesn't anymore. sheesh.
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brighn
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response 37 of 52:
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May 20 07:54 UTC 1996 |
I'm forgetting this item.
Greg privately called me an "asshole"... what I said to him was
perhaps a bit uncalled for, but insults are DEFINITELY uncalled for.
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brighn
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response 38 of 52:
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May 20 08:49 UTC 1996 |
(actually, to the pleasure of many, i'm sure, i'm leaving co-op
entirely pending an apology from Greg C for the insult)
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gregc
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response 39 of 52:
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May 20 10:26 UTC 1996 |
For the record: brighn (unjustly)accused me of a certain activity, before
he had his facts straight. I personaly find such leap-before-you-think
finger pointing to be highly insulting. There will be no apology
from me on this subject.
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brighn
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response 40 of 52:
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May 20 22:11 UTC 1996 |
I apologize for the indirect accusation.
My feelings were hurt by the use of words such as "agenda",
used in a context that implied malice or indifference, when all I did was
criticize a change and state my views on the subject.
But "he started it" is an immature attitude, so I'll just drop the
topic. I've been in a snitty mood the last few days,
and I'll admit that Greg C provided himself as a suitably
abrasive target to start a fight with.
Actually, I must say, he got hostile too quickly... I'm going
back to snitfights with Carson and Kerouac. They're more fun,
and they don't kick sand in my eyes. *giggle*
And if Greg isn't going to apologize for calling me an asshole,
that's all right, because he's an asshole. =}
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selena
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response 41 of 52:
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May 21 03:38 UTC 1996 |
Oh, WTF, people??
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arthurp
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response 42 of 52:
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May 25 22:29 UTC 1996 |
First, attack telnetting has no affect on me whatsoever. I cruise along if
people attack telnet, ftp, or whatever. For myself, I could care less, the
system always performs.
For a time of a month or two between discovering screen and hearing that
people were not able to get in I used screen to multilogin so I could have
my helper flag on and accomplish things in another window. Now that I realize
there is port contention I have not done it at all.
With that in mind it seems hard to believe that someone would paint me as
selfish. Occasionally a bit unaware of the big picture, but selfish?
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carson
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response 43 of 52:
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May 25 23:11 UTC 1996 |
I'd've described Chaz exactly as he did.
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brighn
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response 44 of 52:
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May 25 23:50 UTC 1996 |
My point, Chaz, is that a certain someone is painting me as selfish
whenI'm as selfish as you are. You've done a few things which,
taken out of context, make you look like a greedy pig too...
(and the grexers sing, Brandi, you're a fine girl, what
a good file you would be, but our love, our life, and
our lady is the Net...) =}
I resented being painted as a selfish hoarder by someone who then
characterized you as an ideal user.
That's all.
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carson
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response 45 of 52:
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May 26 00:21 UTC 1996 |
Chaz learns from his errors. :P
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brighn
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response 46 of 52:
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May 27 05:17 UTC 1996 |
(and I don't, Carson? When was the last time you and I got into a serious
flamewar, child? =} )
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carson
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response 47 of 52:
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May 28 18:05 UTC 1996 |
since I stopped paying attention to you. your point?
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brighn
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response 48 of 52:
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May 28 23:11 UTC 1996 |
(silly carson, you started the last one... about sexuality, way back
when, and we snitted each other... =} and this whole thing has gone
wackily off-thread, the point being... oh, i don't remember, i don't
care =} )
I don't have an agenda. All I know is that it took me twenty tries
to get online last night to check my mail, then another fifteen tries
to check blondval's. I guess I wasn't aware that wanting to use the
system counted as an agenda. =}
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tsty
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response 49 of 52:
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May 29 07:56 UTC 1996 |
these might be the unfriendly troubles item, but, !!hello!!, it's machine
oriented, not personal. thank you for your attention.....
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