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Grex > Coop8 > #120: Regarding a breach of etiquette | |
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robh
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response 25 of 138:
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Sep 30 16:29 UTC 1996 |
janc makes the best possible point in #18, that if the Board suddenly
said, "Sure, we trust selena, let's take her money and make her a
member without getting her address", how many more people would start
demanding the same? How much of the Board's meeting time would be
taken up by "Do we trust user A", "Do we trust user B",.....
"Do we trust user X", and so on? Once opened, that door is damn
near impossible to shut.
It's the same reason I don't let individual users put Web picutres
here on Grex, no matter how small the pictures are. As webmaster,
I don't want to get the dozens of pieces of mail per week saying
"So-and-so has a picture on their Web page! Why won't you let
me have one? It's only a little bit bigger than theirs." Soon
enough, I'll be allowing 200kb pictures because I didn't know where
to draw the line. (In fact, I do get mail like this every once in
a while, from users who can't figure out that the pictures on my page
are stored on other systems.)
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brighn
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response 26 of 138:
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Sep 30 21:35 UTC 1996 |
Richard, five people have heard Selena's voice.
the ISPs aren't even close.
I have let Selena use my pilot account to get michnet access. That may be
where the confusion is.
Selena is not a member already.
Selena is not me, nor Blondval, nor any other grexer that I have met IRL.
And Rob and Jan, I hope you don't ever plan on visiting China, because, since
you haven't seen it, it must not exist. I *have* seen people allege that
telnet access is the sticking point.
Thanks to whoever it was (scrolled off now) that put up the actual wording
of the law. I'm clear now.
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krj
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response 27 of 138:
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Oct 1 05:27 UTC 1996 |
re #10, way back there: OK, Grex does not have *adequate* ways of
commending/rewarding donors, other than with a voting membership.
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tsty
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response 28 of 138:
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Oct 1 05:50 UTC 1996 |
fwiw, Ann Arbor Computer Society just created a 2nd classification
of membership. we now have 'member' and 'supporting member.' only
suporting members get to vote. our memberships really rose in quantity.
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rcurl
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response 29 of 138:
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Oct 1 07:21 UTC 1996 |
Which is cheaper? 8^}
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davel
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response 30 of 138:
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Oct 1 14:36 UTC 1996 |
(For what it's worth, at the Grex picnic I started the rumor that kerouac was
a pseudo of mine. I won't say what the reactions were ... )
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birdlady
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response 31 of 138:
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Oct 1 20:16 UTC 1996 |
<rotflol>
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ladyevil
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response 32 of 138:
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Oct 2 04:33 UTC 1996 |
If kerouac WAS a psuedo of yours, all I would say is- KNOCK IT OFF ALREADY!
As to a thanks in Agora- oh, good, a thank you note in one item in an
overblown confernce I avoid actively. Sounds rewarding.
Again, the telnet access I don't really care about anymore. The voting would
be nice, but illegal.
Personally, you guys can guess al you want as to who I am, because I don't
care about what you *guess*. *I* know who I am- Selena Anne Barwens.
Brighn knows- he's heard me on the phone dozens of times.. so has a few other
folks who are grex users. If you aren't one of them, well now, that's jusst
too bad, isn't it? Brighn even saw me once, at last year's Renassance
Festival, but I guess you guys aren't taking his word for it, if he's a prime
candidate for "being Selena".
Siilyness, really. Fo all I know adbarr is a catholic nun. That's his/her
business. All I know is that he's good at Devil's advocate, and typically fun
to read here in coop.. oh, and that he says he's who he is.
I'll take his word for it.
A Catholic Nun, good at Devil's Advocate? *shiver*
Anyway, I wanted to be called a member for y donations, as a member, even if
for various silly-ass reasons nothing really changes regarding my status here.
It's a matter of that ting you called "reward". Maybe I'm too mercenary, but
that's life.
It's also life that I'm now roughly four weeks pregnant, accidentally. Kind
of gives you new perspectives on things. *shrugs* That belongs in a different
cf, a different item, though..
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tsty
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response 33 of 138:
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Oct 2 08:47 UTC 1996 |
congratulations! (on purpose <g>).
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birdlady
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response 34 of 138:
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Oct 2 19:14 UTC 1996 |
I believe there is a Selena Barwens somewhere in Michigan simply because I
believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt.
<birdy tries to picture adbarr as a nun and falls over laughing>
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robh
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response 35 of 138:
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Oct 2 19:59 UTC 1996 |
I dunno, I've seen a lot of nuns who look something like adbarr...
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kaplan
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response 36 of 138:
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Oct 2 20:15 UTC 1996 |
OK, so Selena doesn't want any specific member benefits. She just wants to
be called a member and grex is not about to change the definition of member
to include anonymous people. So as a member, I'd vot e to create a new
category for anonymous donors. We could call it somethying like "Friend of
grex" or "Special user." Selina, how would you like it if Grex called you
"Special"?
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rcurl
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response 37 of 138:
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Oct 2 21:31 UTC 1996 |
Just so long as it is not a new *member* category, its fine to acknowledge
donations with a title. Call them Donors (minimum donation....$500 ;->).
Actually, I think Grex could come up with a better name, considering it is
moving from the Dungeon to the Pumpkin.
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robh
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response 38 of 138:
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Oct 3 05:39 UTC 1996 |
For a $100 donation, Selena can become the official Cinderella of Grex?
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rcurl
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response 39 of 138:
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Oct 3 06:33 UTC 1996 |
Well, how about just Cinderella #1?
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davel
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response 40 of 138:
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Oct 3 13:07 UTC 1996 |
#1 pumpkin eater?
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birdlady
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response 41 of 138:
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Oct 3 13:39 UTC 1996 |
Hmmm... Yearly (or monthly) donations from users who wish to remain anonymous
and also want to show their support for Grex? Doesn't sound bad... The only
thing is that members get certain privileges for their donations, whereas the
anonymous donators would only have the love and thankfulness of all of us.
(i'm not saying that's bad...) The point I'm dancing around is that for
members, there is an *incentive* to donate...telnet access, voting, etc. I
still think it's a good idea, though. Anonymous always makes me think of the
word "mouse". There were special, magical mice in _Cinderella_, but I don't
think the anonymous donators would appreciate being called "mice. ;-}
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janc
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response 42 of 138:
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Oct 3 14:46 UTC 1996 |
If we're going with the Cinderella theme, than if Selena donates $500 we
should call her Grex's official "Fairy Godmother".
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rcurl
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response 43 of 138:
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Oct 3 16:12 UTC 1996 |
"Fairy Godmother # 1", please. Grex needs many.
You don't need to dance around the point, birdy. Most non-profits are
supported by donations from individuals and corporations *that are not
members*. Grex remains different because it does not make a case for being
a charitable non-profit in the quarters where it matters. It doesn't make that
case, because most Grex users don't think of the organization as a charitable
non-profit, but rather as a club that provides them with benefits (hence
your dance).
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kerouac
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response 44 of 138:
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Oct 3 16:42 UTC 1996 |
SeeSelena, how does anyone know what to beleive when you
say that you've spoken to brighn a number of times on the telephone and
saw him once, when at other times you've repeatedly said you are ,married
toboth him and blondval.? If you are willing to make up a story
aboutbeing married, is it a stretcht o make up a story about an
altogether false identity? This happens on the computer/cyberspace
all the tme. I'mn ot saying you arent who you say you are, just thgat
you should understand why peoplewoud be suspicios.
and congrats on the pregnancy...may I say that I think that both you
and your offspring shouldbe allowed to become grex members. I dont
agree altogether with the policy either, but if somebody can
run newuser and create 20 different logins and buy 20 memberships just
to swing a vote their way (likr janc likely would've done
onmnet instaed of buying other peoiplememberships if he could've), you
can see the problems. So I think unverified memberships are
fine but not without some other revisions to the bylawxs.
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birdlady
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response 45 of 138:
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Oct 3 17:41 UTC 1996 |
Kerouac, please buy a spellchecker, then start making sense. Selena never
said she was legally married to Brighn and Valerie...they were either
cyber-married or handfasted, which still isn't a legal marriage unless done
by a priest. (HUGE oxymoron there...) I digress -- Why am I discussing
this?
<birdy apologizes to the entire coop community for today's endless drift>
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brighn
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response 46 of 138:
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Oct 4 05:04 UTC 1996 |
Kerouac, if it's any of your business, you impetuously prying little shit,
Selena and I were spiritually married for nearly a year. We never met IRL.
We never claimed to. Selena has, to my knowldge, never made up a thing about
her life, unlike LOTS of people i know IRL... Now, how do we know that Kerouac
isn't really Bill Clinton?
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robh
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response 47 of 138:
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Oct 4 13:11 UTC 1996 |
I would hypothesize that he is not, for the simple reason that Clinton
doesn't have the spare time to type in those huge responses. >8)
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davel
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response 48 of 138:
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Oct 4 13:25 UTC 1996 |
Al Gore, now ...
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tsty
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response 49 of 138:
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Oct 7 08:14 UTC 1996 |
hillary has time to take dictation ... opppsss ...wAy too much drift, sorry.
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