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lilmo
response 25 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 02:31 UTC 1995

*knocks on wood*
srw
response 26 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 05:50 UTC 1995

One of the big packages yet to do is the security system for passwords.
A number of programs will have to be rebuilt yet again once that is installed.
Just installing it is a lot of work.  Picospan and newuser are also
unbegun as yet. There's probably a lot more. We'll try to get a more
complete list of things to do at the staff meeting.
selena
response 27 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 06:54 UTC 1995

        Any chance of killing the one-year password forcechange when it
gets installed over there? <Just a question!! Eep!>
gregc
response 28 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 09:31 UTC 1995

No.
steve
response 29 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 11:35 UTC 1995

   No, because that would involve modifying code.  At this point,
we're busy with just getting everything moved over and compiled.
   Marcus has started work his stuff, but he is sick right now,
hence his lack of presence here lately.
lilmo
response 30 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 06:26 UTC 1995

Don't worry, selena, they (usually) don't bite for just asking a question...
selena
response 31 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 16:44 UTC 1995

        Oh, I don't know.. some of them can..
lilmo
response 32 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 19:52 UTC 1995

That's why I said "usually"; every rule of thumb has exceptions.
davel
response 33 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 20:52 UTC 1995

(But is *that* rule of thumb an exception to itself, with no exceptions, or
... ?
lilmo
response 34 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 07:18 UTC 1995

Actually, that was a generalization of an actual rule of thumb:  "Every rule
of thumb is correct about 4 times out of 5...  including this one."
selena
response 35 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 03:42 UTC 1995

        <selena thinks her thumb knows more than she does>
adbarr
response 36 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 17:31 UTC 1995

#34 is the corollary to "No generalization is worth a damn, . . including
this one." I guess. Maybe a derivative? 
lilmo
response 37 of 130: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 20:34 UTC 1995

Probably of related lineage (bothe born of experience), but not likely that
either is a direct descendant of the other, imho.
dpc
response 38 of 130: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 18:38 UTC 1995

Any further progress on the Sun-4 project?
ajax
response 39 of 130: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 21:07 UTC 1995

Item 109 (meeting minutes) has an update.  The Sun 4 is predicted
to be moved to the dungeon in two and a half weeks.  Sounds like
it's still on track for the "two months" estimate given a month ago.
(Go staff!  Go staff!  Woo woo woo! :-)
nestene
response 40 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 11:47 UTC 1995

Would it make sense when we move to the Sun-4 to change /home over to
subdirectories (e.g. /home/nestene becomes /home/ne/nestene) as was
discussed in a previous coop?
popcorn
response 41 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 15:38 UTC 1995

Probably.  (Actually, /home/nestene would become /home/n/e/nestene).
It's on the to-do list, though, unlike other updates, it's not critical
to get to this one before we switch to the Sun 4.

Though, come to think of it, the only reason why we haven't done this on the
Sun 3 is the disk problem: it would be pretty awful if /home/n went away,
taking all home directories that start with "n" with it.  I'd like to see that
the disk problem is cured on the Sun 4 before we switched over to the multi-
level home directories system.
gregc
response 42 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 22:01 UTC 1995

What she said.
ajax
response 43 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 00:08 UTC 1995

  How's the Sun 4 coming, btw?  Last board meeting people said
"a little behind schedule;" any predictions of when it will be
available to users?
gregc
response 44 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 00:42 UTC 1995

Have you ever seen the movie _The Money Pit_?

Two Weeks.
davel
response 45 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 02:27 UTC 1995

Nope, haven't seen it.
srw
response 46 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 03:00 UTC 1995

Various staffers have continued to install software. More is needed.
I am working on the Kernel blocks, after Marcus steered me to
some kernel code. Progress is happening. Two weeks is not enough time.

The conversion to a hierarchical home will be done *after* we go to the
Sun-4 and things settle a bit. This move has been delayed 15 months so 
far.
gregc
response 47 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 05:20 UTC 1995

From _The Money Pit_:
  Tom Hanks to contractor: So how long do you think all this work will take?
  Contractor: 2 weeks.
  Tom Hanks: 2 weeks? Wow! Thats amazing!
  Contractor<under breath>: Amazing? It'l be a f***in miracle!

It becomes a running joke. Throughout the movie, as days turn into weeks,
and weeks into months, Hanks continues to ask "how long?" and the contractor
continues to answer "2 weeks".
adbarr
response 48 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 12:23 UTC 1995

Kinda reminds me of "Two beers, Officer."
popcorn
response 49 of 130: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 15:42 UTC 1995

It's the old 5% of the programming that takes 95% of the time....
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