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gregc
response 25 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 23:34 UTC 1995

No, putting our IP address there would be a bad thing. That's the whole
reason that the Domain Name System(DNS) was invented. To give every machine
a symbolic name. Our symbolic name(cyberspace.org) will probably never
change. However, it's likely that our IP address *will* change at some point
in the future. That's ok, DNS was designed to always map a symbolic name
to whatever the current IP address is. This hides the details of IP
addresses from the average user. So it would be a bad idea to use something
that could(and probably will) change.
carson
response 26 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 03:36 UTC 1995

(but.. but... Greg, they're *disposable*! And our really cool T-shirts
have it too [I think]!)
popcorn
response 27 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 13:18 UTC 1995

Nope!
steve
response 28 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 14:14 UTC 1995

   If we had a really cool IP address, like 18.19.20.21, then it would be
kinda fun to use it, but we don't, so Greg is right.
   (I'm surprised we haven't yet seen someone with a 'cool' address
publicize it yet)
sidhe
response 29 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:11 UTC 1995

        Hm. I wasn't aware of the transitory nature of the IP addresses.
That's probably why no one has advertised even the coolest ones.
Okay than, how about an underborder of "cyberspace.org---cybersp.."
?
carson
response 30 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:16 UTC 1995

hey, I'm finally wearing my t-shirt while I use this thingy, and, sure
enough, the IP numeric address isn't there! I guess that shows how much
attention I'm paying to things Grexxian!
sidhe
response 31 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:36 UTC 1995

        Don't get down on yourself over it.. *I* don't even HAVE a shirt,
yet!
steve
response 32 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 22:48 UTC 1995

   IP addresses aren't transitory really, but they do change.  Grex actually
has its own class C subnet, but we aren't using it--we're a part of IC-Net's
address space for routing reasons.  As things with us or IC-Net change,
our IP address might change.  Thats why the symbolic name is such a good
idea.  And, which is easier for most people to remember: cyberspace.org or
152.160.30.1?  Not many people are like me and *like* the pretty little
numbers.  Most sane people prefer the names, and with good reason.
carson
response 33 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 23:25 UTC 1995

I trained myself to type the numbers, so, at the moment, it's easier for me to
*type* the numeric address. I couldn't really say which is more memorable to
me, though; neither is something I forget.
popcorn
response 34 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 13:28 UTC 1995

Re 31: Sidhe - send me mail if you want to buy a Grex t-shirt or mug.
I've got a few left.  There should be an agora item that lists the sizes
and colors that are available.
sidhe
response 35 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 14:30 UTC 1995

        Valerie, I'd become a member, first, and I've yet to budget THAT.
tsty
response 36 of 152: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 11:13 UTC 1995

 ...... Name, huh? ........ I'm thinking ......................
rcurl
response 37 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 07:24 UTC 1995

I'm going to argue against the name "Drift" for the newsletter. I think
"Drift" carries a certain tongue-in-cheek charm, since we are always
drifting, drift being an inherent feature of conferences. However, we
are also always railing against drift. Few people get very hot about
it, but one often sees efforts being made to get an Item back on
track, and some responders choose to indicate "drift=on (or off)", so
as not to encourage further drift. On some occasions, even fairwitnesses
make an effort to lessen or correct drift. So, I don't see that "drfit"
represents the *essence* of Grex communication.

So, what is the essence? It is open, fair-minded, discussion of information.
Grex has even put in place a mechanism to help ensure this - the role
given to the fairwitnesses. I'll admit this is somewhat undefined, and
fairwitnesses do not all handle their conferences the same, but the *idea*
and even name is one somewhat unique to Grex. So, I'd like to suggest
a name for the newsletter, based upon that idea:

The Fairwitness.
mwarner
response 38 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 15:51 UTC 1995

Fairwitness sounds vaguely religious or litigious.  That fits grex.
lilmo
response 39 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:14 UTC 1995

Second #37.
nephi
response 40 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 06:28 UTC 1995

I hate to seem wishey-washey, but I like The Fairwitness better than 
The Drift.  
cicero
response 41 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 06:44 UTC 1995

Well I like Drift!  If you get my Drift.
tsty
response 42 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 09:35 UTC 1995

Well then, modify; Cyberspace Driftian  (coupled triplets too!)
remmers
response 43 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 12:00 UTC 1995

"The Fairwitness" sounds either like a Christian newsletter or a
Heinlein fanzine.
eeyore
response 44 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 15:10 UTC 1995

i think fairwitness does sound a little preachy.  drift sounds too vague.
i agree that the name grex should be left out, but now that i've disaggreed
with all of the suggestons, i have none of my own to make!  :(

soemthing humouruous is deffinately needed, though...it just fits with the
group.
nephi
response 45 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 15:40 UTC 1995

Are there any more obscure Latin words beginning with G that we could use?
gregc
response 46 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 15:48 UTC 1995

I agree, _The Fairwitness_ sounds too stodgy.
popcorn
response 47 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 16:31 UTC 1995

We could name it according the Grex's computer-naming-scheme: come up
with something that starts with "gr", preferably a word from an ancient
language.
ajax
response 48 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 16:41 UTC 1995

  Howzabout "Monthly Proceedings of the Grand Encampment of the Ancient
and Accepted Rite of the Siblinghood of Supreme Purple Grexxers?"
rcurl
response 49 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 16:45 UTC 1995

I find it interesting that "The Fairwitness" sounds preachy to some,
when we have fairwitnesses identified all over the conferences, and
users are clamouring to be one. So, do all these conferences sound
like christian conferences? (The Heinlein connection is acknowledged -
but maybe some founders should tell us again why they named conference
moderators "fairwitnesses".) 

In any case, the name I was seeking was one that has some association
with the conference function of grex - and that the world would ask about.
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