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Grex > Coop7 > #113: How many and what kind of paper copies? |  |
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lilmo
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response 25 of 52:
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Oct 25 19:43 UTC 1995 |
Feel free to chime in!! Also, as mta is the only one of us in AA, e-mail her
with your ideas. :-)
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mta
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response 26 of 52:
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Oct 26 14:25 UTC 1995 |
I do plan to do a few copies on really nice paper with full colour and pretty
layout. But that'll be just a very few to be used in my PR attempts. (Pretty
please, can we leave brochures here? See, this is who we are and what we do.)
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sidhe
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response 27 of 52:
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Oct 26 19:31 UTC 1995 |
Mta, have you checked into what kinko's can do for you? As I
recall there's a very strong presence of them in Ann Arbor.. now as to
full-color, _that_ can get to be very expensive.. but high quality black
print on good colored stock is most impressive, at very little more cost
than just Black and white..
Also, as I work at a kinko's in Lathrup Village, if you want to
go to hte bother of getting the originals to me, I may be able to
arrange a special discount.
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tsty
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response 28 of 52:
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Oct 28 20:30 UTC 1995 |
Kinko's is +not+ the only printing game in town, just the most expensive
and most obvious. Please look at an offset printing shop. I can think
of Partners Press for one.
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ajax
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response 29 of 52:
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Oct 29 04:26 UTC 1995 |
Though Kink's may be AA's only commercial round-the-clock
print-it-yourself shop with good computer output devices.
I've never seen them give the cheapest quote for anything,
but they're still my first choice for a lot of things
(being open at 3am is a BIG plus for me :-).
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tsty
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response 30 of 52:
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Oct 30 07:10 UTC 1995 |
Kinkies does have its place ... so does the Grex bank account - ithink
ajax and i are agreeing here.
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rickyb
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response 31 of 52:
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Nov 1 22:56 UTC 1995 |
tsty, off-set is cheap if you print scads of copies. but the initial
set-up (typeset/keyline and master plate) is pretty expensive for lower
volume jobs. advantage is good quality retained in large jobs, and faster,
cheaper per copy cost (for larger jobs).
unless you're talking about k's of copies, i'd go with kinkos who can print
from your disk (ie; no typesetting costs) with fair quality.
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tsty
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response 32 of 52:
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Nov 2 07:45 UTC 1995 |
how many copies are we printing? whatis the breakeven point?
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sidhe
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response 33 of 52:
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Nov 2 16:08 UTC 1995 |
Well, I can tell you that to take a job of less than 500 to
an offset printer will get you laughed out of their shop.
As I didn't see that kind of volume being proposed, I suggested
what I knew to be a good alternative.. if you _were_ talking more like
500+ flyers, I would have suggested offset myself!
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scott
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response 34 of 52:
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Nov 2 17:09 UTC 1995 |
I've about 5000 is the break even point
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gregc
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response 35 of 52:
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Nov 3 12:39 UTC 1995 |
What kind of volume, size, and number of pages do you think the Grex
newsletter would be?
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lilmo
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response 36 of 52:
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Nov 5 01:54 UTC 1995 |
I believe that someone reported an authorization from the board to be up to
two pages, front and back? (Although I think the equivalent, one 11x17 folded
in the middle would be a better idea; less separate sheets to lose or scatter)
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gregc
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response 37 of 52:
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Nov 5 14:27 UTC 1995 |
If it would help, I recently picked up a big office laser printer cheap
at an auction. It does postscript, double sided and 11"x17". My cost for
consumables(not counting the paper) would be 0.05 per 2-sided 11x17 page.
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lilmo
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response 38 of 52:
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Nov 5 19:43 UTC 1995 |
So, you would charge Grex $0.05 per newsletter, plus paper costs? What would
Kinko's charge?
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rickyb
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response 39 of 52:
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Nov 7 18:15 UTC 1995 |
(in that range, I think. Kinkos would also be able to fold &/or collate for
an extra charge, and the product would be boxed)
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lilmo
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response 40 of 52:
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Nov 8 05:59 UTC 1995 |
How much does 11x17 paper cost? In bulk, now, we would not necessarily buy
just enough for each run at that time.
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danr
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response 41 of 52:
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Nov 8 17:10 UTC 1995 |
For 8.5 x 11" copies, Kinko's charges .07 for the first 100 and .035 for each
copy thereafter.
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sidhe
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response 42 of 52:
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Nov 9 04:38 UTC 1995 |
Number 41 is correct for the most part. If greg is willing to
do what he has proposed, I would take him up on it.
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selena
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response 43 of 52:
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Nov 18 05:25 UTC 1995 |
And..
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lilmo
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response 44 of 52:
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Nov 27 02:22 UTC 1995 |
And, no one seems to know who should make this decision. Including me.
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steve
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response 45 of 52:
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Nov 27 21:48 UTC 1995 |
I think you folks should pick a small number of copies to start with,
and if they disappear into the woodwork, well, we can always make more
up. Better to have three trips to the printers becasue of popularity than
one trip and a pile of newsletters that need to go to the recycling bin.
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tsty
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response 46 of 52:
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Dec 1 05:18 UTC 1995 |
there could ba an official Grex library for timber product productions,
perhaps 3-4 copies, minimum?
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lilmo
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response 47 of 52:
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Dec 1 17:27 UTC 1995 |
Wasn't someone to get subscriptions from members?
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rcurl
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response 48 of 52:
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Dec 1 18:48 UTC 1995 |
Let's seee if I can remember...the idea was to offer to send paper copies
to members if they want them (this helps members - supporters - that
aren't hanging around here all the time), and also to make an over-run
for publicity purposes, to pass out at JCC sales, and other events.
How many would JCC volunteers think should be in a pile there?
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steve
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response 49 of 52:
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Dec 1 21:44 UTC 1995 |
My strategy at a JCC might be to hold on to a pile of them, and if
I've talked to someone at the table who seems like s/he might actually
log on, give them a copy of the newsletter. If they say thanks and
walk away without talking at all after they've picked up a piece of
Grex literature, I tend to think there is less of a chance I'll see
them online. Thats false to some extent, but without limitless
resources, I think we should try to husband them a little, else we'll
need 500 of them. People tend to go pick-up crazy and swaps, and will
greedily pick literature up when they know that they probably won't
even read it. I'd like to avoid that if we can.
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