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Grex > Coop7 > #112: Nominations for Cyberspace Communications Board of Directors | |
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kerouac
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response 25 of 190:
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Oct 15 20:45 UTC 1995 |
I second Anne and Kami's nominations...we need more witches on the
board!
Okay I seee the logic in term limits in this case I guess. In the
congressional debate here a couple of years ago, congressmen would not
have been able to run again in a year.
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robh
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response 26 of 190:
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Oct 15 21:44 UTC 1995 |
Gods, that makes three pagans nominated already...
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lilmo
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response 27 of 190:
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Oct 15 21:50 UTC 1995 |
Point of order: Can only members make and second nominations?
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bruin
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response 28 of 190:
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Oct 15 22:19 UTC 1995 |
RE #25 - I trust by the response of "more witches on the board" you mean
persons who practice Wicca or Earth-based worship, kerouac, as opposed to the
more derogatory term of the word "witch."
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kerouac
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response 29 of 190:
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Oct 15 22:42 UTC 1995 |
#28...yes I mean wiccans of course....
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kerouac
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response 30 of 190:
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Oct 15 22:48 UTC 1995 |
Re #27...I re-read the bylaws word for word (coop item#2) to clarify
what the term limits thing stated....and the bylaws clearly state
that "any member of grex may make a motion" but it does not state that
"only a member of grex may make a motion" I guess the wording is
open to interpretation, but I take it to mean that only members may
"vote" on a motion, but that anyone can make a motion.
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selena
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response 31 of 190:
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Oct 15 23:01 UTC 1995 |
Well, nobody said I couldn't, and I third anne and kami
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robh
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response 32 of 190:
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Oct 15 23:42 UTC 1995 |
Hmm. I'd been given to understand that only members could make
nominations, but I could be wrong.
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popcorn
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response 33 of 190:
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Oct 16 13:28 UTC 1995 |
I'd say it doesn't matter a whole lot whether the person doing the
nominating is a member or not, since people can nominate themselves.
As long as the candidate accepts.
Speaking of nominations, I nominate Rane Curl (rcurl) to run
for re-election.
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popcorn
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response 34 of 190:
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Oct 16 14:36 UTC 1995 |
I nominate Misti (mta) to run for the board.
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mta
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response 35 of 190:
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Oct 16 14:49 UTC 1995 |
I accept! Thanks, Valerie.
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sidhe
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response 36 of 190:
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Oct 16 16:29 UTC 1995 |
Well, I second my own nomination, and don't worry- my membership
will be in good standing prior to the 15th of November.
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scg
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response 37 of 190:
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Oct 17 00:56 UTC 1995 |
Um, before people go second and thirding the nomination, did kami really tell
bruin she wanted to run for the board before he nominated her. I have
somewhat of a hard time believing that somebody who has no coop7 participation
file, and hasn't read any Coop since March 10, would be interested in being
on the board (applogies to kami if what I'm seeing is a result of the disk
bug rather than a lack of participation).
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kerouac
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response 38 of 190:
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Oct 17 01:13 UTC 1995 |
I didnt know reading coop is a prerequisite for being on the board?
Most news of note is linked to agora at some point anyway.....
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llanarth
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response 39 of 190:
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Oct 17 01:14 UTC 1995 |
Grr.. just because i use telnet to get to grex, I won't be able to run =(
but I want to..
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kerouac
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response 40 of 190:
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Oct 17 01:21 UTC 1995 |
re: #39...people who telnet instead of dialing in cant run? First time
I've heard that! learn something new everyday...
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adbarr
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response 41 of 190:
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Oct 17 01:43 UTC 1995 |
Them bylaws is complicated.
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scott
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response 42 of 190:
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Oct 17 01:54 UTC 1995 |
Telnet vs. dialup means nothing. Members are those who put their $6/month
in.
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scg
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response 43 of 190:
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Oct 17 04:22 UTC 1995 |
re 38:
Participating in Coop isn't technically a requirement for being on the
board, but it's where Grex politics gets discussed. That I wouldn't vote for
a candidate who didn't participate in Coop is a personal thing that has no
bearing on this discussion. My point in that response was that I would find
it very surprizing if somebody who didn't care enough about Grex politics to
read Coop cared enough to be on the board.
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davel
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response 44 of 190:
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Oct 17 10:38 UTC 1995 |
Telnet vs. dialup by itself means nothing. But in addition to membership
a director must be able to make it to meetings; this has a high (but
by no means 1:1) correlation with using dialins.
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remmers
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response 45 of 190:
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Oct 17 12:46 UTC 1995 |
Right--dues-paying membership and availability for board
meetings are the primary criteria for eligibility. In addition,
since Cyberspace Communications is incorporated in Michigan,
we're obliged to adhere to state regulations regarding board
membership. The only one I'm aware of that significantly
impacts Grex, due to its large number of younger users, is a
minimum age requirement--you can't serve on the board of a
Michigan corporation if you're a minor. We've been lax about
that in the past. A lot of people (including myself) weren't
aware of an age restriction, and there have been a couple of
board members--good ones, in my opinion--who were under 18.
But now that we know, I don't think we can overlook the rule.
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steve
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response 46 of 190:
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Oct 17 16:14 UTC 1995 |
...And I think we should continue to be lax in the future.
I knew about that law when Marc was first on the board. I
thought it was assinine then, and I still think so now.
I *would* *love* to be able to get the media coverage that
we'd get if the state people came after us. It isn't any of
their business what we do, as long as its legal.
Official disclaimer: I speak for myself only and not any other
member of the Cyberspace Communications Inc. board.
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ajax
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response 47 of 190:
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Oct 17 17:48 UTC 1995 |
(STeve - you say it's none of their business "as long as
it's legal"...isn't John's point that it wouldn't be?)
I was listening to an interview last night on Fresh Air with
a pair of EMS technicians who started a volunteer ambulance
in the Bed-Stuy "gheto" in NY. They started out without an
ambulance (ran on foot, beating regular EMS crews by an average
of 16 minutes) and without an office. Looking at how the drug
dealers worked, they decided to set up shop in an abandoned
building, shared by several drug dealers who also squatting
there. They knew it was illegal, but they figured, if the
police can't get rid of the crack dealers, how're they going
to explain to the community why they kicked out a pair of
rebels trying to save lives? It worked.
Given the likelihood and magnitude of any consequences, I'm
with STeve - nothing wrong with a little civil disobedience.
OTOH, if other board members are held liable, I'd hate to
scare off law-abiding, i-dotting, t-crossing board folks.
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rcurl
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response 48 of 190:
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Oct 17 19:04 UTC 1995 |
I accept Valerie's nomination.
Now some aimless discussion related to issues raised above: only members
can nominate members, since the members are legally responsible for
electing the board; nominations never *require* a second because it is
assumed nominess implicitly second their nominations by accepting; Grex's
practice of allowing self-nominations is unusual, and of course converts a
"nomination" by a non-member to a self nomination if the nominee accepts;
nominees cannot be under-age, but they shouldn't want to be: in particular
their parents shouldn't want them to be, because board members of a
Michigan corporation can be sued for failures of fiducial duties and
of-age board members are responsible for themselves but the parents of
underage board members would be liable for suits against their children.
(Some people tend to forget that Cyberspace Communications Inc is a
Michigan corporation, subject to Michigan law, and not just a "club" of
friendly volunteers.)
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llanarth
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response 49 of 190:
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Oct 17 21:36 UTC 1995 |
grr.. =(
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