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steve
response 25 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 13:44 UTC 1995

   I think complete restarts are the way to go, too.
rcurl
response 26 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:56 UTC 1995

I suppose it may depend upon one's attention span ;->. I use scan and
find freely, as "index" searches, and find (or don't find) what I seek.
I like looking into history (and having it available to look into). 
oldcoops aren't indexed anywhere, nor even "dated" (and I don't know
how long are they kept around). How do I find what was said about
filespace allocations, some coops ago? I think it is kind of *crazy* to
throw away all that good stuff, when it could just set there available
for anyone doing a search. So, I favor a pruning approach.
wind
response 27 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:18 UTC 1995

Items can also be "retired" instead of "killed". This is a point that
seems to be lost on several current fairwitnesses.
chelsea
response 28 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 11:46 UTC 1995

Not lost just alternately prefered. ;-)
sidhe
response 29 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 20:56 UTC 1995

        Well, the retired item idea is a good one.. it cleans up the "read"
process, while retaining the past data.
jep
response 30 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 01:46 UTC 1995

        I prefer full restarts to rolling restarts.  A complete restart is
much more definite.  The conference seems much more fresh, and it can be
established with it's own new identity, which is usually a good thing in
my opinion.
rcurl
response 31 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 07:48 UTC 1995

That's true for general conferences, which are conversations. However
coop contains both the repository of Grex policy dicussions and 
decisions, and many ideas that should really be kept available, for
when their time comes. I don't understand "the conference seems much
more fresh", or "it's own new identity". I view coop as a compilation
of working "committees of the whole". The interest is in the process
and the results. I don't oppose having *fresh* ideas, or the separate
items having *identify*, but I don't think of the conference as having
a quality or identity. 
jep
response 32 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 02:52 UTC 1995

        I agree it was a pretty vague statement.  (-:  I do prefer a full
restart, though.  A policy conference can become old and tired, with
memories of hard fought battles that linger far longer than they have to,
and with items full of irrelevant comments from days long past.  Important
discussions can always be preserved.  Perhaps there should be a Co-op
Classics conference to preserve these discussions in a readily available
form.
rcurl
response 33 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 05:16 UTC 1995

That's why my preference is for pruning - of the "old and tired" that
didn't go anywhere - likewise the battles that resolved nothing. But
there is a lot to preserve. 
lilmo
response 34 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 23:11 UTC 1995

As long as someone holds on to the old coops, I think full restarts 
are the way to go.
chelsea
response 35 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 20 04:00 UTC 1995

Even though I have all the past Co-op conferences archived and
indexed and plan to continue to do so it would be a good thing
for anyone who is interested in Grex's history to do likewise.
You can never have too many backups.  
tsty
response 36 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 21 06:18 UTC 1995

As chelsea has noted above, I have been agitating, gently, for
something that resembles a rolling restart. And, given the link
requests, that sort of fits the bill. 
  
I'd prefer that the new conference restart with immediate links
from the old conference - particularily time-dated discussions
and still-active discussions. Still active, to me, means at least
two responses in the prior 15 days, or something like that.
  
As for the old conference, rcurl took the words right off my
keyboard in #26 and #13. Linking to re-start would keep the
current stuff in the public eye.
  
As for the archival items, that should be available in some sort
of coops.classics conference, even if gzipped. I don't know the
Picospan filesystem well enough to know if gzipped responses
could be handled though.
sidhe
response 37 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 17:39 UTC 1995

        Classic.Coop.. Why does this remind me of a soda-pop idea?
In any case, I like fine how it was handled this time, and have taken
notes.
htp169
response 38 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 03:08 UTC 1995

This being my first entry into this part of my new world and thought
I would listen in or should I say read in on whats happening since
I am expiermenting my way though.
selena
response 39 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 06:43 UTC 1995

        Welcome!
amoco
response 40 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 14:40 UTC 1995

Looky hear, of been on grex for a few months and just now I join coop.  Bad
oil company, BAD!
 I thouht coming hear might suprise us all and become useful, but I haven't the
faintest what goes on here.  I don't have the faintest about a LOT of things, 
actually, but a few explanations would be vastly appreciated.  Plus
no one's said welcome to me and I feel bad.
steve
response 41 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 14:51 UTC 1995

  Well, consider this:  Welcome!

  This is the conference on Grex where we talk about how Grex is
run, where we're going, and all that.
  This is the conference to bring up ideas in, when you have suggestions
for how to change things, or ideas for new things.
popcorn
response 42 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 15:18 UTC 1995

Welcome, amoco!
srw
response 43 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 16:17 UTC 1995

Welcome to "coop" Amoco. 
It is amazing how many people use the system but do not read coop
to learn about how it is being run, and to get involved.

Grex is run pretty much right here in this conference --
in other words, right out in the open, for all to see.
I know that is not much like a big oil corporation, 
but that's how we like to do it. 
You're welcomed (in fact, encouraged) to join in and share your comments.
davel
response 44 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 03:23 UTC 1995

What do you mean, no one's said "welcome"?  The title of the item you
responded to says it.  (Oh, you mean personally?  Not just a welcome mat?)
selena
response 45 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 05:07 UTC 1995

        What good is a welcome mat, if your name's not Matt? <chuckle>
lilmo
response 46 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 05:34 UTC 1995

At this time of the morning, with as little sleep as I've had lately, that
was actually funny...  :-)
carl
response 47 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 10:59 UTC 1995

Welcome. amoco.  Be sure to ask questions if there's anything you
don't understand.  Sometimes we start talking about technical
things and get caught up in the details to the point that it no
longer looks like English.  If so, remind us.

selena
response 48 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 16:41 UTC 1995

        Hey, it wasn't inspired.. I'm glad someone liked it.
pegasus
response 49 of 156: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 17:12 UTC 1995

WHen I type BBS, the system puts me in agora, but it's winter agora. When
will spring agor be the default?

        Pattie
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