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tod
response 25 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:35 UTC 2006

Catch as Catch can
mcnally
response 26 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:40 UTC 2006

 re #24:  That's not what it means, but if you should find yourself in
 Ketchikan you're welcome to stop by.
jep
response 27 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:49 UTC 2006

I'm not too concerned about any holy war coming of a newspaper cartoon, 
other than the entertaining prospect of wondering what it would be 
called.  ("The Cartoon Invasion?")

If it is against Islamic Law to see a cartoon of Mohammed, then we have 
an easy way to end the war in Iraq and all terrorism from those who 
consider themselves devout Muslims.  Ah, if only the world were that 
easy.
tod
response 28 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:53 UTC 2006

re #27
"Remember the Maine!"
richard
response 29 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 21:06 UTC 2006

re #23 we are talking about islamic fundamentalists, NOT most muslims.  What
a fundameentalist considers to be blasphemous is going to be far more sweeping
than what a non-fundamentalist considers blasphemous.
tod
response 30 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 21:38 UTC 2006

re #29
You said "no muslim"
Are you rescinding that claim?
scholar
response 31 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 21:58 UTC 2006

Re. 29:  You have no idea what's going on.

First of all, ALL Moslems are fundamentalists.

Second of all, there isn't a Moslem alive who wouldn't find the pictures
(which went way further than just portraying Mahomet) offensive and insulting.
tod
response 32 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 22:00 UTC 2006

Is a Muslim in Turkey going to think the same way as a Muslim in Pakistan?
richard
response 33 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 22:05 UTC 2006

All muslims are not fundamentalists.  Many muslims abhor the kind of
terrorism/violence that the fundamentalists sanction.  Your statement is the
same as if you said there are only orthodox jews.  Clearly that isn't the
case.
kingjon
response 34 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 22:49 UTC 2006

(I would say it's more like saying there are only Hasidic Jews -- as far as I
can tell, "Orthodox Jew" means the same sort of thing as just living in a
Muslim country does in practice for a Muslim -- keeping most of the details of
the practical matters of the faith.)

scholar
response 35 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 23:04 UTC 2006

Re. 33: Orthodoxism isn't the same thing to Judaism as this 'fundamentalism'
you've made up is to Islam.  Know any Orthodox Jews who advocate inflicting
violence and torture on people because they're not Jews or because they make
fun of Jews?  Yet there are plenty of Moslems who do this, and it is in fact
a core part of their religion, as anyone who bothers to read Alcoran.

Re. 32: I don't expect a Moslem to think exactly the same was as his neighbour
down the street does.
tod
response 36 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 23:06 UTC 2006

re #33
You're thinking of extremists.  Fundamentalism means the basics.

re #34
Prior to the 20th century, all Jews were considered Orthodox.  Today, you can
have conservatives which is considered the more liberal of Judaism.
kingjon
response 37 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 23:09 UTC 2006

True -- but orthodox versus Orthodox. There's Reform, Conservative, Orthodox,
(C)hasidic [depending on how you transliterate it], I think in that order (from
most liberal to most conservative), but I might have gotten the first two mixed
up. (Not that I'm an expert, but my parents have made sure that I know more
than average, and I've read Chaim Potok's _The Chosen_.)

tod
response 38 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 23:38 UTC 2006

Good, now go read Night by Elie Wiesel.
kingjon
response 39 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 23:44 UTC 2006

Read that too. (_Chosen_ was something I picked for AP English Lit & Comp;
_Night_ was for American History in eleventh grade.) Too depressing to read
again.

slynne
response 40 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 00:31 UTC 2006

Oh wow, now both Oprah *and* tod are telling us to read _Night_
tod
response 41 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 00:37 UTC 2006

I am where I am because of the bridges that I crossed. Sojourner Truth was
a bridge. Harriet Tubman was a bridge. Ida B. Wells was a bridge. Madame C.
J. Walker was a bridge. Fannie Lou Hamer was a bridge. Now go treat yourself
to some Apple jeans!!
kingjon
response 42 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 00:40 UTC 2006

Re #40: I think it was perhaps worth reading. Once. Just like _Lord of the
Flies_, _Red Badge of Courage_, and perhaps _The Scarlet Letter_ (though I like
that because I like that sort of writing). The one addition to that list that I
think nearly no one agrees with me on is _To Kill a Mockingbird_ -- but I don't
like it because it was read *to* us at about half a chapter per class period
(every other day) in ninth grade, so I'd read it about five or six times before
we'd "finished" it.

naftee
response 43 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 05:48 UTC 2006

whoa ! 

the newspaper Le Devoir printed ONE of the comics.
sholmes
response 44 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 15:32 UTC 2006

come to think of it , if god was really unpleased over this incident , he/she
can prolly do far better damage if he/she wants to. So leave it to t he god
eh ...
rcurl
response 45 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 18:17 UTC 2006

I've never heard of a religion that says "leave it to t he god
 eh". 
naftee
response 46 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 22:47 UTC 2006

that's because there is no god, eh.
crimson
response 47 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 12:49 UTC 2006

Re #45:
That's because most religions have better spelling and grammar.
naftee
response 48 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 02:44 UTC 2006

gagaga
richard
response 49 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 05:35 UTC 2006

Yesterday the netherlands and denmark embassies in Damascus, Syria 
were torched and burned down by irate muslims screaming that they were 
defending the honor of the Prophet from the evil media.  These guys 
sound like they'd be right at home in the GOP, where they love 
religious people and hate the evil media.
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