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krj
response 25 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 19:50 UTC 2002

jules used to encourage a regular M-net social gathering at some 
karaoke event or another.
aruba
response 26 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 21:47 UTC 2002

OK, I called Bel Mark and Cubs.  They have pretty different deals.

At Bel Mark, they hav leagues every night, but they always have some lanes
set aside for regular people like us.  The nights with the most open lanes
are Wednesday and Friday - 12 on Wednesday and 24 on Friday.  But Friday
it's pretty full, so Wednesday sounds like the best night for us at Bel
Mark.

Cost is $3.50/game/person on those nights, plus $2.25 for shoes.  There is
no nonsmoking area, and they don't take reservations for parties of lest
than about 20 people.

At Cubs AC/Colonial Lanes, they have leagues every night, and are pretty
much booked up until about 10 PM every weeknight.  On the weekends, though,
the lanes are open to all.  They have 40 lanes.

Cost is $16/hour/lane, plus $2.50 for shoes.  On weekends there is no
smoking allowed in the lanes before 5 PM (though you can go smoke at the
bar).  They will accept reservations for 4 or more lanes, though she hinted
that if I talked to the right person they might hold 2 or 3 lanes for us. 
But usually there are open lanes on the weekends.
aruba
response 27 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 21:48 UTC 2002

I think we should try both places and see which we like better.  I'm for
scheduling our first outing for this weekend sometime, at Cubs AC.  Which
would people prefer, Saturday or Sunday?
jep
response 28 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 23:18 UTC 2002

I'd prefer Sunday if it's in the afternoon.  I can't be there from 3-4 
on Saturday, but if it's before or after that on Saturday I'll be 
there.  Thanks for doing the organizing!  
eskarina
response 29 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 00:57 UTC 2002

I'm going to be in town this Sunday, so if its fairly early in the afternoon
(I'll have to be on the road to Lansing by 5ish), I could come.
aruba
response 30 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 03:04 UTC 2002

How about 2 PM Sunday?
kaplan
response 31 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 03:46 UTC 2002

Are babies allowed on the lanes?  Both parents won't be bowling at the 
same time.  He's usually very well behaved.

If so, then this Sunday finishing at 2 might work for us but not 
starting at 2.  I'll be on stage.  I'll go enter a resp in the "grexers 
on stage" item.
gelinas
response 32 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 03:59 UTC 2002

Hmm... I've not bowled in Ann Arbor enough to comment on babbies in their
lanes, but our first was happy enough during our Sunday morning bowling
outings.
eskarina
response 33 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 04:08 UTC 2002

The earliest I could start would probably be 1ish on Sunday.
aruba
response 34 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 04:10 UTC 2002

They cater to a lot of birthday parties on the weekends, so if Ross isn't
bothered by lots of balls crashing into pins, I'm sure he's welcome.
oval
response 35 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 06:14 UTC 2002

you guys should take a grexpedition to NYC.
flem
response 36 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 15:07 UTC 2002

Ack, I can't do Sunday.  Saturday I think is clear.  

Help, I'm stuck in iambs!
keesan
response 37 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 15:33 UTC 2002

Iambs do not start with a stress, they end with a stress.
What do you call the meter that Flem used in 36?
brighn
response 38 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 16:52 UTC 2002

I'd actually call it iambic heptameter, since I'd give two beats to "Ack" (as
an exclamation). If you want to give "Ack" only one beat, it's trochaic
hexameter with an extra beat at the end, or trochaic pentameter with a triple
on the end, although for some reason I can't find a name for a SwS triple
online.
brighn
response 39 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 16:57 UTC 2002

Looking more carefully at a more natural reading of #36:
Ack, I can't do Sunday. Saturday I think is clear.
S   /w S     ? /S  w   /S  w w  /w S    /w  S
"do" could either be stressed or unstressed, depending on the emphasis
intended. In general, iambs predominate, but others might break the feet up
differently.
orinoco
response 40 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 16:59 UTC 2002

That's because in English prosody the feet all have one stress.  In Greek
prosody, there were feet with more than one long syllable, but they didn't
adapt well into English.  I think that SwS is a cretic of some sort, but I
don't really remember.

Saturday is better for me too, but early Sunday could work.
orinoco
response 41 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 17:00 UTC 2002

Er, Paul slipped in.  
aruba
response 42 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 17:00 UTC 2002

Hey, this is the bowling item.  Take it next door.
aruba
response 43 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 17:01 UTC 2002

Dan slipped in (twice!)
brighn
response 44 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 17:46 UTC 2002

#40, sentence 1: I'm not sure I agree with that, but I'll disagree in another
item if anyone wants to discuss this more. ;}
flem
response 45 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 12:48 UTC 2002

I'll let myself get another word in on the drift, since I've not had a chance
yet.  1) I read "do" as unstressed, and "Saturday" with secondary stress on
"day".  2) It can still be considered iambic meter even though not all feet 
are strictly iambs.  
aruba
response 46 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 13:50 UTC 2002

All right, that's my cue to say something before this descends into drift.
Looks like jep, eskarina, and I prefer Sunday, and kaplan, flem, and orinoco
prefer Saturday, and others have not expressed a preference.  Hopefully
we'll do this more than once, so we can try different times different weeks,
to snag a different cross-section of Grexers.

I'm declaring that this week we'll bowl at 2PM Sunday at Cubs AC/Colonial
Lanes.  I'll go put it in the MOTD.  Next time we'll do Saturday.
brighn
response 47 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 14:19 UTC 2002

#45> Stressed "do" would have a special meaning (either an implication that
the person had previously thought that day open, or an implication that that
person really really wants to go, but has a prior engagement). I'd think most
of the time, it would be unstressed in that context.
jep
response 48 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 15:32 UTC 2002

Okay, I'll see everyone at 2 on Sunday.  I'm looking forward to it very 
much.
eskarina
response 49 of 217: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 17:29 UTC 2002

For the record, I'm _horrible_ at bowling.  Just so everyone is warned.
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