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keesan
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response 25 of 50:
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May 13 21:29 UTC 2002 |
So what are your symptoms and how many of them match the diagnosis?
How many hours a week is dialysis nowadays? In my father's time it was
experimental. He was one of the first to have it, in the hospital, and it
took all day.
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utv
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response 26 of 50:
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May 14 00:41 UTC 2002 |
it is my understanding that the diagnosis ws based mainly on the MRI,
which apparently displayed some colorful parts in the brain's myelin
layer (or something like that). my dialysis is MWF 3 hrs each.
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keesan
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response 27 of 50:
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May 14 01:09 UTC 2002 |
Do you feel well enough to read during dialysis? If not, are you interested
in reading books on tape?
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bru
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response 28 of 50:
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May 14 01:19 UTC 2002 |
Okay, you want tonsil stories? Try this.
My mother ate breakfast the morning she had a tonsilectomy. For that reason,
they could not give her a general anesthetic. Theygave her a local and placed
a mirror in front of her so she could watch.
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edina
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response 29 of 50:
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May 14 11:52 UTC 2002 |
Re 27 "Reading" books on tape isn't READING - it's "listening". Serious pet
peeve of mine.
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jep
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response 30 of 50:
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May 14 14:05 UTC 2002 |
re #29: I disagree. "Reading" is assimilating information. You
can "read" a book by audiotape, just as a blind person can "read" a
book by Braille. Words are words, whether they're printed, bumps,
verbalized, or conveyed by sense of smell in some weird way.
Similarly, one can write a book by speaking into a dictaphone or tape
recorder just as well as with a computer or typewriter.
It's the arrangement of the words that makes the book, not the medium.
Taking in those words is reading, however you receive the information.
www.m-w.com: read:
1 a (1) : to receive or take in the sense of (as letters or symbols)
especially by sight or touch
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edina
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response 31 of 50:
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May 14 14:17 UTC 2002 |
I guess I always thought of reading as a visual thing. Regardless of what
you said, John, it's still a pet peeve. I didn't read "The Shipping News"
- I listened to it on teh way home from MI.
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rcurl
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response 32 of 50:
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May 14 14:42 UTC 2002 |
One *reads* books to others, one does "speak" books to others. One goes
to "readings" to listen to books being "read" (out loud). Reading is not
just visual assimilation of printed words.
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gull
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response 33 of 50:
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May 14 14:55 UTC 2002 |
Re #31: So a blind person isn't "reading" a braille book, they're
"feeling" it? I'd look at someone kind of odd if they said, "I felt a
good book last week..."
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other
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response 34 of 50:
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May 14 16:45 UTC 2002 |
but if they were blind, they wouldn't know you were looking odd.
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edina
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response 35 of 50:
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May 14 16:59 UTC 2002 |
Re Depends on it it was Anais Nin :)
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rcurl
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response 36 of 50:
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May 14 22:55 UTC 2002 |
s/does/doesn't/ in #32.
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cmcgee
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response 37 of 50:
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May 15 00:29 UTC 2002 |
So listening to the TV without watching it is reading? How about radio?
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jaklumen
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response 38 of 50:
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May 15 02:02 UTC 2002 |
Julie often reads aloud-- it's the best way she can remember the
information. She also loves to watch TV with closed captioning.
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keesan
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response 39 of 50:
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May 15 02:33 UTC 2002 |
I often say phone numbers aloud to make it easier to remember them.
Webster: read - receive or take in the sense of (as letters or symbols) by
scanning [printed matter via vision]; to study the movements of (as lips)
[lip reading, via vision]; to utter aloud words represented by writing or
print [read aloud]; to understand the meaning of (written or printed matter);
to learn from what one has seen or found in writing or printing.
Reading books on tape would fit the last two definitions if you stretch them
to include the fact that the writing or print has been transcribed to sound
first. So would: to become acquainted with or look over the contents of (as
a book), to receive and understand (a voice message) by radio.
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jep
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response 40 of 50:
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May 15 02:37 UTC 2002 |
re #37: I'd say it's unambiguously the same as reading if you're
listening to a book being read. It's all the same content in that
case; the TV is just a delivery mechanism, same as a tape, a book or
another person reading a book directly to you.
I'd say the evening news is functionally equivalent to a 10 minute
browse of a newspaper. Once again, you get much the same content. But
I wouldn't call that reading, whether the picture is on or off.
I'd say that watching the Miss America Pageant (with or without the
video) is in no respect "reading". Nor is the movie "Fantasia".
They're not oriented toward the arrangement of the words, they're
visual and audio spectacles and not the same thing at all.
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jazz
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response 41 of 50:
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May 15 15:14 UTC 2002 |
Different parts of the brain are used, markedly different parts, in
watching a half-hour news broadcast and scanning through the paper for ten
minutes. I won't go so far as to say that it encourages questioning what you
read, though.
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beeswing
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response 42 of 50:
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May 16 04:07 UTC 2002 |
Oh god...
Anyway. I'd have liked to have seen a video of my surgery. I can't
imagine a local for a tonsillectomy. And as I recall, I was told 100
times in the days leading up to the surgery that I was to have no food
or water at least 8 hours before.
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utv
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response 43 of 50:
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May 16 14:59 UTC 2002 |
i feel well enough o read during dialysis; it doesn't tire me out or do
anything like that. Kinda hard to read though with only one hand free
(the arm which is cuffed should remain flat and should not be raised).
Books on tape would be great.
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slynne
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response 44 of 50:
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May 16 15:49 UTC 2002 |
I get books on tape for free sometimes, Frank. I could send you some if
you send me your address.
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aruba
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response 45 of 50:
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May 16 16:06 UTC 2002 |
You can also get them out of the library.
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bhelliom
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response 46 of 50:
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May 16 18:32 UTC 2002 |
If you live in Ann Arbor, there is, I think, I place on Washtenaw near
Frank's Nursery and Crafts that sells and even rents books on tape.
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keesan
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response 47 of 50:
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May 16 19:20 UTC 2002 |
Jim gets books on tape free from the Washtenaw Library for the Blind and
Physically Disabled, for which you can qualify with a doctor's note. Half
the readers do NOT have vision problems. Give them a call. They will lend
you a large yellow tape player that you need for this special format (if you
try another tape player you hear one channel forwards and one backwards at
the same time). Lots of fiction and quite a bit of nonfiction too. They send
you a quarterly paper catalog and you mail in your order and get little green
boxes in the mail, which you read the contents of and mail back for free.
Library for the Blind 4133 Washtenaw Ann Arbor 971-6056
They are federally funded. Other dialysis patients might also be interested.
I think the player takes headphones, but if not Jim can rig you up something
that does. He likes designing these players.
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utv
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response 48 of 50:
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May 17 00:43 UTC 2002 |
my ex-wife is a librarian who is quite knowledgable about this stuff,
she is a veritable fount of information.
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drew
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response 49 of 50:
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May 18 00:03 UTC 2002 |
You have an ex-wife???
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