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buddy
response 25 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 02:15 UTC 2002

Well the red wings were victorious again and now they lead the series 3 games
to 2. Sergei Federov was really great tonight. He scored 2 of the 4 goals in
tonights game. Dominick Hasek was also great tonight. He did a total shut out
tonight. Hopefully the red wings will be as successful in game 6 as they were
tonight. We'll just have to wait and see...
edina
response 26 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 13:47 UTC 2002

But how do you respond to Vancouver's coach saying that the calls have been
unfair?
ea
response 27 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 17:42 UTC 2002

Brian Burke made a mistake in running his mouth, complaining about the 
officiating.  All it does is serve as inspiration for the Wings.  Scotty 
Bowman is the king of mind games, and Burke is way out of his league.  
(Apologies to whoever posted this on USCHO ... possibly Senna ... I'm 
basically repeating your argument)
brighn
response 28 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 20:34 UTC 2002

#26> Sour grapes. As someone on WDIV put it (maybe Devon Scillion), "That
sounds like someone whose team lost three games after winning the first two"
(which Bernie Smilovitz corrected, since the comments they ran were after the
fourth game).
senna
response 29 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 23:44 UTC 2002

The calls have been unfair to both teams.  Todd Bertuzzi got away with a
flagrant board on Chris Chelios in the middle of Vancouver's long stretch of
second-period power plays in game three, for example.  Goaltending issues?
Yzerman coasted in front of Dan Cloutier, well outside of teh crease, causing
Cloutier to mysteriously lose his footing, setting up Yzerman's game three
goal that got the Wings off the schnide.  Very legit play.  In the second
intermission, Burke complained that his goaltender had been run, so his
comments about Hasek's blatant dives (he had a couple) sound a bit hollow,
particularly when you consider the very real runs taken at Hasek that weren't
called.

The big news is Kyle Mclaren's vicious elbow to Richard Zednik (respective
teams are Boston and Montreal) that broke Zednik's nose and jaw and gave him
a nasty concussion with a shade more than a minute to go in a game that was
beyond reach.  There's major uproar, and comparisons are already being made
to the Tie Domi "The Idiot's Elbow" wrestling move against Scott Niedermyer
last year and the immortal Claude Lemieux mugging of Kris Draper in '96.  ESPN
showed a clip package of cheap hits, including that fiasco, and I again
realized why I'm rooting for San Jose and Los Angeles so much this week.

It's always a frustration when hockey gets major press only when something
ugly like this or the McSorley slash or the fan death occurs.  The League
appears to be cracking down a bit more, which is encouraging.  I hope3 that
Mclaren gets tossed for the playoffs at least--you have to know that stupid
plays like that will kill your team.

I don't think that Mclaren was necessarily gunning specifically for Zednik
(though Montreal does, and they have a point) or even that he was trying to
cause injury, but elbowing an unsuspecting player in the face as he skates
toward you is inexcusable under any circumstance.  
buddy
response 30 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 02:15 UTC 2002

Well the Detroit red wings beat the Vancouver canucks 6-4 in game 6 so the
red wings will go on to round 2. Player of the game was Brett Hull and he
truly deserved it because he scored the last 3 goals for detroit. Well i guess
that's all i have to say...
senna
response 31 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 03:15 UTC 2002

Montreal defeated Boston in Boston, 2-1.  They take a 3-2 lead in the series
and actually have a chance to finish the upset at home.  It will be
educational to see if Boston comes out with appropriate intensity, but they're
going to have to put two games together and I question whether they'll be able
to do it.  Good showing by Montreal regardless, and with Zednik out Theodore
finally produced the huge game he needed to, turning away nearly every
opportunity for a more talented Boston team.  If boston *does* escape, this
series may wind up being a solid building excersize, a demonstration of the
intensity and consistency (particularly on defense) that they'll need to win.

Of course, if they don't escape, the Eastern Champion is anybody's guess. 
Both Toronto and New York have now lost their captains for the playoffs (The
Isle's Mike Peca tearing an ACL in Toronto last night), so the winner there
will be severely shorthanded against a field of misfits that nobody could have
predicted would stand following the first round.  Already in is Ottawa, a team
few gave a chance to do anything against that highly-paid, talented group of
players that Philadelphia fields.

Fielded.  Two goals in five games.  Amazing.  And Carolina?  Most hockey fans
probably couldn't name three guys on their lineup before the playoffs, but
they ousted the Devils, even after being left for dead both at the beginning
of the series and after game four when the Devils had won two easy home games
to tie it.  That one is over in 6.  Boston fans will be kicking themselves
if they don't escape, because they can easily make the finals with their
roster.  Also kicking themselves (and you can chime in on this, edina) are
Washington Fans, who have the talent and the goaltending to destroy what's
left of this field.  They never even made the playoffs.  Ric's own Carolina
squad has as good a chance as anybody to make the final.


And the Wings won a wild one.  It was 2-2 after the first, and that doesn't
really describe how it got there... if the Kings can ride their momentum on
Monday and beat the Avs in Denver, it's the Wings and Kings part deux.  If
the Avs repeat last season's game seven win over LA, it's the Wings and Blues
part MCMXVIII.

No, I have no idea what the correct roman numeral is.
ea
response 32 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 14:57 UTC 2002

Wings and Blues part 1918?  That certainly sounds good ... but I have no 
clue how many times these two teams have met.  I think 1918 is probably 
high ...
edina
response 33 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 13:34 UTC 2002

Re 31  Rod Brind'Amour  Ron Francis  Sami Kappanen  Arturs Irbe  Kevin Weekes
Bret Hedican  Kevin Stevens (wuss wuss wuss!!!!)

I just wanted to prove that I could name some Canes.  (Of course, this comes
from actually traveling to Raleigh for away games.  Nice chance to eat, drink,
be merry and see Ric.

When a lot of attention is focused on hockey for "bad" reasons (ie, the
violence factor), a lot of people, knowing I love the game, always look at
me, like, "how could you like this game?"  True fans don't see the violence
- they see the speed, the skill, the dedication.  That's how you separate it
out.  But you know - a good, clean hit is a thing of true beauty.

Go Habs!!!
ric
response 34 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 15:05 UTC 2002

I haven't been following Agora this season, but edina mentioned this item to
me so of course I had to join in.

As many of you know.. I live in North Carolina.  I am a Carolina Hurricanes
fan.  So is my daughter for that matter.  She is 3 months old.  Look at this
picture:

http://www.rickroot.com/gallery.cfm?GALLERY_ID=19

Carolina is mostly a fairly young team, getting a lot of production in the
playoffs from youngsters like Eric Cole, Jaroslav Svoboda, and Josef Vasicek.
Eric Cole is a rookie of the year candidate I think.

Now that we've ousted the Devils, Carolina can beat ANYONE in the east.  We've
got home ice advantage in round 2.  And if Montreal beats Boston in game 6
or game 7 of their series, Carolina would also haveh ome ice advantage in
round 3 if they made it that far.

GO 'CANES!

I have great tickets to the games too :)
senna
response 35 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 22:16 UTC 2002

Heh.  lucky.  Are the next two games sold out yet?
ric
response 36 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 16:30 UTC 2002

No, but I'm sure they will be.  Alas, we only sold out one of the three home
games in round 1... game 2, which was a Friday night.  Game 1 missed a sellout
by a good 3000 tickets... Game 5 missed a sellout by only about 500 tickets.
Both games 1 and 5 were Wednesday nights.

Raleigh/Durham is definately not what you could call "Hockey Town".
lynne
response 37 of 141: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 21:53 UTC 2002

Dammit.  Wish I'd found this item way back when it was started...Any bets on
the Leafs-Isles game in about an hour?  I'm cheering for the Leafs (but only
since the Wings aren't playing them, of course :))  Does anyone know when 
round 2 will start?
senna
response 38 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 1 01:48 UTC 2002

Tomorrow.  The Wings play Thursday and Saturday, if I recall.  The Avs and
the Sharks get the CBC treatment at 10pm Eastern, and that will be a terrific
series.
lynne
response 39 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 1 13:31 UTC 2002

Mmmm, I'd love to see the Sharks beat the Avs.  Or at least take them to 7 
games and hopefully knock out Forsberg.  The guy bugs me.
For those who aren't rabid enough to already know this:  there's good 
coverage of the Wings at www.freep.com/index/redwings.htm and 
detnews.com/wings  this time of year.  there's an amusing article at the
free press site on chelifish :)
ric
response 40 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 1 16:52 UTC 2002

Carolina plays Friday and Sunday... and next Sunday is game 5.. I'm pretty
happy about that.. I like the home games to be on weekend days/nights.
senna
response 41 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 2 00:39 UTC 2002

Nobody knows about the Sharks, but they're a strong, strong team with great
goaltending, scoring talent, and a terrific physical ethic.  They're deep,
too, and well-built for a playoff run.  Before the playoffs began I predicted
elsewhere that the Sharks and Blues would play each other at some point in
the playoffs, and the winner would go to the final.  I'll stick to that
(though we know that the latter clause is automatic, given the earlier
clause).  
lynne
response 42 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 2 15:25 UTC 2002

I have a lot of respect for the Sharks.  Especially since they whupped 
Colorado 6-3 last night (that's gonna raise your GAA a leetle bit, Patty
Waaugh! :))  Have to disagree with you about the Blues, though.  The Wings
aren't even done waking up...they're still in snooze button mode.  Just 
wait'll they get their morning coffee!
edina
response 43 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 2 15:32 UTC 2002

OWEN NOLAN!!!  OWEN NOLAN!!!
senna
response 44 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 3 03:06 UTC 2002

Actually, Teemu Selanne.  The Wings won a somewhat subdued 59 minutes of
hockey tonight, an important game that didn't really feel that much like the
playoffs.  At least, that's what it felt like until Keith Tkachuk took a
blatant leave-the-feet run at Dominic Hasek, a move so cheap and stupid that
the rest of this playoff series should be totally electric.  Good win for the
Wings, and I dont' see how Keith's little charge can be anything but good for
Detroit, since Hasek was unharmed.  He should be suspended for at least a
game.

The Senators smoked the Leafs tonight, 5-0.  I don't thinkt he rest of the
series will be that lopsided, but the Sens could easily take it in five and
snuff out any hopes of a Mats Sundin comeback.  The fate of the Eastern
conference could rest in the ability of the Senators to end this series early
while the Leafs are hurting--do that, and they have an open check to the
Final.  Fail, and a fired-up Leafs team could get Sundin back and turn this
series into a gauntlet.  Not much of a game tonight, though.
edina
response 45 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 3 13:31 UTC 2002

Oh, I know that Teemu Selanne scored a bunch - but I love Owen Nolan.
lynne
response 46 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 3 16:34 UTC 2002

The last minute or so of the Wings game last night was hugely entertaining.
The aforementioned Tkachuk run resulted in a 6-on-5 scrum (empty Blues net
= 6 skaters, a ref wisely kept Hasek from joining in) that included Cheli,
Draper, McCarty, and Maltby (Lidstrom was there but in more a restraining
role than actually hitting people).  Five or six game misconducts were
issued, and the zamboni guy ran across the ice whirling an octopus over his
head while the refs were trying to pull players out of the pile.  Fischer
also wound up with a double penalty 26 seconds later, but that was at the
very end of the game so it didn't matter.
Hasek played well and the defense was very good about clearing loose pucks
from the front of the net.  All the same, there was something seriously wrong
with the BLues' offense--three or four posts, and a lot of whiffed shots--
including one or two with an empty or open net to shoot at.
Teemu Selanne and Owen Nolan are both welcome to score at will--but just in
this series.  Next round they're goin' down.  :)
ric
response 47 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 4 15:18 UTC 2002

Carolina goalie Kevin Weekes posted another shutout last night, stopping 25
shots while his teammates amassed 38 shots and scored twice in the third
period to win it 2-0 in regulation.  And to take a 1-0 series lead.
jared
response 48 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 4 20:10 UTC 2002

3-2 wings.
senna
response 49 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 5 04:47 UTC 2002

Not a bad game.  A win is a win, but things should pick up a bit in St. Louis.
The Wings are playing solid hockey, though, and that's what we want to see.
Toronto went into the third overtime to beat the Senators today, obscuring
the less fortunate blowout of the Sharks by the Avs that many expected.  They
should have saved some goals for later. ;)

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