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Grex > Agora > #21: What happened to Grex's Gopher server? | |
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papa
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response 25 of 79:
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May 29 00:36 UTC 2017 |
P.S. Although the above file is accessible via Gopher, you can also read it
with cat, more, less, or your preferred file viewer.
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papa
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response 26 of 79:
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May 29 01:45 UTC 2017 |
Argh! I accidentally tossed my guide down the memory hole.
The contents now are an earlier version. I will recreate the completed guide
over my lnch break.
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papa
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response 27 of 79:
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May 29 03:54 UTC 2017 |
The file is partially restored and now provides a hint for starting your
exploration of Gopherspace. More later.
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mijk
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response 28 of 79:
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May 29 09:27 UTC 2017 |
Your a dancer Papa! :) I'm just off to have a look now. Thanks! :)
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mijk
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response 29 of 79:
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May 29 09:43 UTC 2017 |
Nice gopherhole papa! I see the server now at: gopher://grex.org/ which
has no links to other servers as yet, but i am so happy to see an new gopher
server on the net \o/. It won't be long untill a few gopher sites link to grex,
for sure. Just one thing: it would be nice if we could start say the default
gopher client with gopher://grex.org/ and have links on there to the
other main servers etc... and maybe we could have a tutorial, for the complete
newcomer, on the grex server's main menu: great work!! :)
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papa
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response 30 of 79:
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May 29 14:10 UTC 2017 |
A simple tutorial is my aim with the document linked above. It was nearly done
before my tragic encounter with the bit bucket. Let me know what you think
when I get it done.
I know cross doesn't want to invest a lot of time in the gopher server, but
it would be nice if gopher://grex.org pointed to a menu of at least
grexer gopherholes, like my file ~papa/public_gopher/grex-gs/gophermap
I don't know how to set the default site for the gopher client, but on an
individual basis you can set a bookmark in either gopher or lynx, or define
a shell alias like `alias gopher='gopher gopher://grex.org'`.
I sent a question to the Gopher Project mailing list to see if there's
anything we need to do to attract a visit from the Veronica indexing robot.
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papa
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response 31 of 79:
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May 29 17:16 UTC 2017 |
I've rebuilt and completed my tutorial for accessing Gopherspace. View the
file:
~papa/public_gopher/README.1st
You can also access the file with Gopher at the address:
gopher://grex.org/0/~papa/README.1st
(use your favorite Gopher client)
I've also created a tutorial for starting your own Grex gopherhole:
gopher://grex.org/0/~papa/README.2nd
You can also access these files and other Gopherspace phenomena from my
gopherhole's main menu:
gopher://grex.org/1/~papa
I've tried to make both tutorials as simple as possible for fellow grexers.
Please try them out and let me know how I did.
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papa
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response 32 of 79:
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May 30 00:08 UTC 2017 |
Tutorial for gophermap custom menus:
gopher://grex.org/1/~papa/gmap.txt
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cross
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response 33 of 79:
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May 30 01:37 UTC 2017 |
Let me be clear what I mean:
I *personally* don't want to put a lot of time and effort into
supporting Gopher, but I'm certainly willing to take content and
marshal it over into the gopher area, make changes to the server, etc.
If folks use gopher, and most importantly if it becomes a draw that
pulls people into Grex then I'm fine with it. If it doesn't, then I'll
take it down (it is, after all, yet another unencrypted service running
on Grex that could become a security issue). But if no one is using it,
then no one will notice. :-)
I'd be slightly more enthusiastic about a low-markup set of static blog
web sites, to be totally honest. Gopher as a protocol is a lot less
interesting. A gopher-style thing via HTTP, with minimalist content (a
la Markdown) that's directly interpreted in lieu of HTML is a lot more
interesting.
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papa
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response 34 of 79:
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May 30 14:51 UTC 2017 |
I've created a script to open your own Grex gopherhole:
~papa/share/bin/mygh
The script uses the gopher client, or you can set you $GOPHER_CLIENT
environment variable if you prefer lynx.
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cross
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response 35 of 79:
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May 30 14:56 UTC 2017 |
Cool. Drop it into /cyberspace/contrib/bin ?
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papa
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response 36 of 79:
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May 30 14:59 UTC 2017 |
This response has been erased.
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papa
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response 37 of 79:
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May 30 15:15 UTC 2017 |
I didn't know about /cyberspace/contrib/bin. mygh is in there now. Are there
any guidelines on what's appropriate to put in there?
cross, could you add the following two lines at the bottom of
/var/gopher/gophermap ?
=== Start ... ==========
Grexer gopherholes ...
~
=== ... End ==========
That will put a list of links to Grex user ~/public_gopher directories at the
end of the Grex Gopher main page.
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cross
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response 38 of 79:
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May 30 15:19 UTC 2017 |
Done. Take a look.
But does that imply that the gopher server will try to stat(2) a subdirectory
of *every* user home directory on Grex each time someone fetches that page?
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cross
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response 39 of 79:
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May 30 15:25 UTC 2017 |
I looked at the source code and that's exactly what it does.
However, at the moment it doesn't appear to be an issue in terms of either
performance or resource consumption. Let's leave it for now. If it becomes
an issue later on down the road, we can revisit.
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papa
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response 40 of 79:
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May 30 17:48 UTC 2017 |
Looks good. Thanks, cross.
I've contacted Cameron Kaiser about adding grex.org to his list of Gopher
servers for spidering by the Veronica-2 search engine.
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papa
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response 41 of 79:
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May 30 22:33 UTC 2017 |
Grex is now on the Floodgap New Gopher Servers list:
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/new
This will trigger a visit from the Veronica-2 indexing robot within a couple
of days. After that, Grex gopherspace content will show up in Veronica
searches:
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com:70/7/v2/vs
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papa
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response 42 of 79:
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May 31 06:25 UTC 2017 |
resp:33
> I'd be slightly more enthusiastic about a low-markup set of static
> blog web sites, to be totally honest. Gopher as a protocol is a lot
> less interesting. A gopher-style thing via HTTP, with minimalist
> content (a la Markdown) that's directly interpreted in lieu of HTML
> is a lot more interesting.
I try to envision what you're imagining and keep seeing something a lot
like the original WikiWikiWeb (http://wiki.c2.com/?WikiWikiWeb). The
only Gopher-like things the original wiki doesn't do is a subdirectory
tree and automatically-generated navigation pages.
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papa
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response 43 of 79:
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May 31 10:50 UTC 2017 |
resp:41
It looks like we have been visited. Grex Gopherspace content is now
searchable with Veronica-2!
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cross
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response 44 of 79:
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May 31 13:57 UTC 2017 |
Actually, I'm thinking more like markdown documents, where the various
formatting metacharacters get translated into bolding or highlighting,
and hyperlinks work. That's it. Think Jekyll but without the jekyll part.
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tod
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response 45 of 79:
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May 31 21:22 UTC 2017 |
I'm changing my font to amber with black background and modem sound
effects
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papa
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response 46 of 79:
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Jun 1 01:20 UTC 2017 |
A good choice, though I've always been partial to phosphor green.
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walkman
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response 47 of 79:
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Jun 4 02:03 UTC 2017 |
#18 that's really cool!
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tonster
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response 48 of 79:
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Jun 5 02:00 UTC 2017 |
I think the question on everyone's mind is "Does the <blink> tag work
again?"
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cross
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response 49 of 79:
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Jun 5 02:26 UTC 2017 |
One can only hope not.
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