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thanne
response 25 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 01:39 UTC 1995

I thought it was helmke.

You guys are so hip.  I don't keep books on my nightstand (only
birth control supplies, heh), but I'm reading _Moo_ by Jane Smiley,
_A Wolverine Is Eating My Leg_ by Tim Cahill, _The Russians_ by
Hedrick Smith (? Smith?  Suddenly that looks wrong), and well, 
I was reading _The Rim_ by that guy on the Well whose name escapes
me, but I think I've given up.

Then there are piles of 'em waiting to be read, but who knows when
that'll happen.
nephi
response 26 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 04:30 UTC 1995

        I don't have time for fiction.

sdober
response 27 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 07:41 UTC 1995

I don't have time for reality.

That Cahill book is great, thanne.  He's a fave of mine.

remmers
response 28 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 12:22 UTC 1995

Nightstand:

Two crossword puzzle pages from TimesFAX (online New York Times digest).
Nicholas Negroponte, _Being Digital_
August 1994 _Games Magazine_
Harold Bloom, _The Western Canon_
E. Annie Proulx, _The Shipping News_
Philip Ward, _A Lifetime's Reading: The World's 500 Greatest Books_
Cricket Liu et al, _Managing Internet Information Services_
Thomas & Turner, _Clear and Simple as the Truth: Writing Classic Prose_
Susan Holtzer, _Something to Kill For_
E.B. and K.S. White, _A Subtreasury of American Humor_
brenner
response 29 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 14:14 UTC 1995





Being Digital is now in my car. How do you like it?

juls
response 30 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 16:42 UTC 1995

OH BOY!!

        "Two crossword puzzle pages from TimesFAX (online New York Times
        digest)

How do I get that??!! And do they include the monthly double crostics?

thanne
response 31 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 22:15 UTC 1995

Being Digital is on an airplane headed for Boulder in my husband's 
suitcase.  He hasn't said how he likes it yet, but he did read me
an amusing quote from it.

Cahill: Yeah, I discovered him by accident when I picked up Jaguars
Ripped My Flesh at a used bookstore.  Now I want to go skydiving
and see if it makes me bark like a dog, too.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwoof!
vsclyne
response 32 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 02:53 UTC 1995

Thanne, does this mean your husband will be out of town Friday?

remmers
response 33 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 02:54 UTC 1995

Re #30:  You fire up your Web browser, invoke the URL

         http://www.nytimesfax.com    (or something close to that)

and click on today's digest.  It's in Adobe's Portable Document
Format, so you have to have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed in order
to view it.  The crossword puzzle is on page 6.  As far as I know
they don't do the double-crostics.
brenner
response 34 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 05:58 UTC 1995



Don't answer him, thannie, its a trick!
thanne
response 35 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 07:43 UTC 1995

Heh, really.  It'll only be me and my 70-pound ill-tempered mastiff
sitting home alone...

Actually, I hope I can still make it Friday.  Exciting Things are
happening at work.
humdog
response 36 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 10:40 UTC 1995


family circle
lady's home journal
redbook
the journal of postmodern philosophy

nephi
response 37 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 11:22 UTC 1995

        (What, exactly, is postmodern?)

vsclyne
response 38 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 13:34 UTC 1995

Re #37:  It's an imperative.  It means, "Nephi, don't
do no old fashioned posts here.  Post modern."

juls
response 39 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 16:35 UTC 1995

Re#33: Thanks, remmers! But I guess I'll have to feed my addiction the
old-fashioned way -- no acrobats, Adobe or otherwise.

(Isn't there an old saying, "Sir, you are a gentleman and an acrobat!"?
or was that another topic?)
humdog
response 40 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 16:49 UTC 1995



i am trying to avoid the LEcture On Postmodernism, you know.

raven
response 41 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 20:40 UTC 1995

        Po-mo is a bunch of pretentious (but often fun) French philosophical
verbiage that tries to prove that there is no reality other than that given
to us by language.
helmke
response 42 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 11:46 UTC 1995

So that's where all the Wittgenstein I forgot comes from! I thought this
all seemed familiar.
humdog
response 43 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 14:00 UTC 1995



raven my dear, you are succinct but wrong.

raven
response 44 of 90: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 23:56 UTC 1995

        Oh yeah eat my Derrida...  Po-Mo derives from a bending of Saussares
theory that language as it relates to reality consists of 3 parts:
signifier----->signified----->referent

In Saussare (sp???) the referent is the actual reality, the signifed is the
idea of the reality in our heads and the signifier is the concrete word or
sound that points to the signified.

The structuralist like Levi Strauss were the first to attack this idea,
claiming that the referent was a bogus idea, that there is only the
relationship of the signifier to the signified.  Basicaly that the world
just consisted of somewhat arbitrary systems of classifications, this is
actualy similar to focaults ideas much as he would have been loath to
call himself a structuralist.

Derrida (shine the spotlight on our star po-mo dude) went furthur to 
(say???) that the relationship between the signifier and the signified
is bogus, that there is mearly a self reflexive web of signifiers.
This theory in turn influenced our modern crop of po-mos like 
Baudrillard who claim we are living in a simulacra, blah, blah.

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raven
response 45 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 00:02 UTC 1995

        p.s. Focault said some things about power, and Lacan said some things
about the phallus as signifier.  There now I saved you about $150.00 you
have spent to read all that French verbiage.  Gotta do something with my
useless education now that I buss tables in over priced cafe here in A2.
juls
response 46 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 00:44 UTC 1995


My, my -- more impressive scholarship when all that was called for was
a few lines of "Did not" "Did, too" "Fuck you" and then a (for some)
very satisfying flame war.  At least that's how it usually goes, isn't 
it?

sdober
response 47 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 02:32 UTC 1995

Oh christ.  I'm gettin outta dodge before Carmen gets back and blows his fool
haid off.

raven
response 48 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 03:22 UTC 1995

        Flame war blah, that's like eating raw tofu. I'd rather get funky, like
disco inferno ya know. :-)
raven
response 49 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 03:26 UTC 1995

        Did I leave a burning chicken in here??  You set them on fire and
off they run disrupting innocent conferences.
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