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sandeep
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response 25 of 41:
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Oct 25 16:12 UTC 1992 |
I've picked up the CD by Arrested Development called "Three Years, Five
Months...." and I can recommend it without reservations. This is a fine
blend of soul, funk, and rap- part of the burgeoning school of "alnative"
rap that also includes Me Phi Me (who I don't much care for) and others.
The songs on the Arrested Development CD are almost all strong- you've
heard the monster hit "Tennessee" and their re-write of Sly Stone's
"Everyday People," and a of my other favorites include "Natural" and
"Mr. Wendal." Like De La Soul, this is rap you can hum along withsing to.
even better than the Arrested Development release is the 1991
release from theUnderground called "Sons of the P," now firmly
ensconced in my stack of 20 favorite CDs. The Underground come up with a
*supremely* funky blend of rap and funk that is obviously indebted to
George Clinton/P-Funk (hence the title) without being at all derivative
Fun rhythms, smooth vocals, interesting layers of musical backing, and, yes,
catchy melodies! This is a great, great effort- the Underground, not those
ridiculous Red Hot Chili Pretenders, are the true masters of modern funk-
not your everyday rap group.
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carson
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response 26 of 41:
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Dec 26 08:30 UTC 1993 |
wow. a year later...
There's this local rap act that played at the Commstock fundraiser last
week. From what I've heard from people who were there, it was quite a good
show. Wish I had known when it was. If I find out more, I'll let you know.
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skeez
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response 27 of 41:
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Dec 29 14:55 UTC 1993 |
A local rap band? at commie? We must talk.
Wow.
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vidar
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response 28 of 41:
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Dec 30 21:59 UTC 1993 |
Great. Another of those items I never read and yet it calls itself newres.
Oh well.
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skeez
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response 29 of 41:
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Dec 31 02:24 UTC 1993 |
Yeah, me too.
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carson
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response 30 of 41:
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Dec 31 11:39 UTC 1993 |
I'm still looking for more information, but from what I can tell, the band is
called "Corruption Committee", and that their set at the Commstock fundraiser
was entirely live (no prerecorded samples). Must have sounded like Rage Against
The Machine.
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skeez
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response 31 of 41:
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Jan 13 00:20 UTC 1994 |
in that case........
<skeez is disappointed>
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carson
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response 32 of 41:
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Jan 13 03:03 UTC 1994 |
Hey! Anything is better than what Hammer and Vanilla Ice are doing for their
comebacks! It's not like there's going to be another PE album or anything
like it ever again!
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danr
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response 33 of 41:
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Jan 16 00:18 UTC 1994 |
Maybe Hammer and Vanilla Ice should do a duet album?
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skeez
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response 34 of 41:
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Jan 16 01:58 UTC 1994 |
Carson, You are sadly mistaken. "PEACE" is Public Enemy's next album. It's
comin' man. Rage against the machine can't be compared to their artistry.
Rage against the machine is nice, they have the Political Fury, they just
need to:
1. Quit using their lyrics over and over. This can be found in every song,
especially "Killing in the name of" .
2. Research and listen. They don't know a fraction of the political knowledge
Chuck D has. They have a very generic message. Yeah, they're pissed. So what?
They're mad at "The system" but don't know enough about it to put a solid
message out. As for M.C. Bladder and Vanilla Wafer, They will probably make
their "Comebacks" with Generic hardcore-gangsta crap. It won't sell, just end
up at the Discount-Dollar stores in about 2 years.
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carson
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response 35 of 41:
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Jan 16 02:55 UTC 1994 |
re #34: That's EXACTLY what Hammer and Vanilla and even NKOTB are doing!
Hammer has got Dre to produce him (sell-out produces sell-out), as has
(oops, "and has...") grown a goatee. He calls himself "OG Hammer," and
apparently looks a lot like Ice-T. Vanilla Wafer, on the other hand,
has grown dreds (you know twiggy) and is being produced by Rodney O.
and Joe Cooley (more Compton sell-outs) (what, no Madonna?). NKOTB have
Nice and Smooth (always weak and always will be) rapping on the
first single.
IMNSHO, PE is through. Sure, they *might* have another album waiting in
the wings, but it's as over as NWA. If the charges that Flav was on
cocaine while he was shooting at his neighbor, he'll have lost any
credibility he might have earned as a PE member. Look at Griff. As soon
as he made negative headlines, Chuck dropped him. Griff's been a
hasbeen since (not that he wasn't to begin with). Terminator X has a
proven solo career (HE will have an album soon, produced by Chuck,
too!), and Chuck has been smart enough to keep his name in the light
even if PE isn't.
Gotta go. I'll respond more later. Basically, I agree with you, but not
for your reasons.
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skeez
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response 36 of 41:
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Jan 16 03:30 UTC 1994 |
I guess so. I didn't say anything about griff, that was on purpose. he's weak,
always been. Flav's just a jester, he really never said anything that mattered,
but "Cold Lampin'" was funny as hell. Free-style at its' best. And Terminator-
He's very talented, Noone can put a "Rebel Bass" star-wars sample and make it
fit in so well. He runs up there with Jam Master Jay. <Run-D.M.C. is another
matter however, for another time> Chuck has a powerful style, and a very
important message. The majority of Rap fans go for Gangsta now, as you know.
He learned that gna
<oops> gangsta was kinda pointless, and promptly dropped it from the albums.
<Yo! Bum Rush The show was o.k., but really doesn't compare with Nation Of
Millions, Apocalypse 91, and Fear Of a Black planet> He is not perfect, he's
proved this by doing a duet with Ice Cube on "Endangered Species". Ice Cube
has a Chuck D kind of Rage, but he loses his points with The racist comments
and stereo-types he puts out. But, Consequently, He sells much better than
Public Enemy ever will. <skeez is ashamed> I did leave out "Greatest Misses"
from the above list, Only 6 new songs. Although the majority of the re-mixes
do justice to the originals, This is not a very complete album. satisfying for
now, but not complete.
"P.S. THIS IS NOT AN ALBUM (WHAT?)
COMING IN 1993 THE LP TITLED... PEACE <Yes, I know it's '94>
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carson
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response 37 of 41:
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Jan 16 08:19 UTC 1994 |
Gee, skeez, I wasn't all that impressed with the remixes on "Greatest Misses."
The one that I think had the most lost potential was the "You're Gonna Get
Yours" remix. It sounded AWESOME, but as soon as I realized that the lyrics
had DISAPPEARED, I was throughly DISAPPOINTED. Why anyone would remix "Party
For Your Right To Fight" and kill the original stereo separation? I'm
usually very impressed with PE remixes ("Brothers Gonna Work It Out", "Fight
The Power"); I'd buy the maxi-singles just to pick up the extra mixes. But
IMO, "Greatest Misses" missed. The new songs were very satisfying for me, but
not until much later. In fact, I can say that about every PE album I've ever
bought: I couldn't enjoy it until almost half a year later. Perhaps that's
why PE is so ahead of the game.
Flav's best performance was on "M.P.E.", IMO. If you ever get a chance to
listen to that megamix that PE put on the b-side of the "Brothers Gonna Work
It Out" CD-5, you'll appreciate "Yo!" a LOT more. If "Greatest Misses" had
taken off from where that megamix (wish I could remember the name of it!)
began, it would have been a better sounding album.
I think PE _has_ the album done. Your guess is as good as mine as to why it's
not out yet. I don't think that there will be another PE album after it,
though.
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skeez
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response 38 of 41:
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Jan 21 22:37 UTC 1994 |
Yeah, Everyone I talk to says they're dead. I am one of the only fans left.
They came with brilliant, powerful, sensible hard-hitting lyrics, All non
gangsta sellouts, and they paid the price. I am very sad that PE hasn't
done better, Rap didn't used to be what it is now. The majority of rap's
audience really doesn't have the attention span or brains to enjoy what Public
Enemy has offered. Anything Dr. Dre has every put out will never make as much
sense. Now Rap doesn't have to make sense of course, But There are too many
nonsense albums and groups selling for my liking.
As for Greatest Misses, The New songs are really good, Tho not really in the
old PE style, that's too
<sorry> to be expected. The "Dum-Diggedy-Dum" that Chuck puts out in "Hazy
shade of Criminal" is indeed a sign of that. His style has changed with the
times, Consequently making the raps weaker, less pleasing, and More fitting
with current raps.
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carson
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response 39 of 41:
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Jan 22 07:58 UTC 1994 |
If you're looking for someone to give PE their propers, listen to Ice-T's
"This One's For Me" from his _Freedom Of Speech_ album.
I consider myself a PE fan, but not a blind follower of their politics.
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carson
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response 40 of 41:
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Feb 23 17:49 UTC 1994 |
looks like Chuck's back in the studio. According to Billboard, *Public
Enemy* is working on their sixth album, which should drop sometime this
year. Looks like I've got egg on my face.
BTW, Terminator X's new single is out now.
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carson
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response 41 of 41:
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Mar 29 20:33 UTC 1994 |
Terminator X's album was due this week, but it looks like it'll be bounced
to next week. If Eazy, Cube, and Dre all make it out next month, things
could get interesting...
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