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jgelinas
response 25 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 18:37 UTC 2010

Hmmm.... Looks like I left something ambiguous:  what happens if members
do object?  The last sentence of Section b should probably be changed to

"The new dues structure will take effect on the first day of the month
after the expiration of the discussion period set in Article 5 or on the
first day of the month after the approving vote, should one be called."

In the case of a disproving vote, the dues change would, of course, not
take effect.
rcurl
response 26 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 04:31 UTC 2010

The treasurer cannot "close the books" before the new fiscal year 
starts. A "fiscal year" is such that deposits and withdrawals can be 
made at any time during that period.

Omit "incumbent" in referring to those in any office. There is no other 
treasurer than the treasurer, for example.

rcurl
response 27 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 04:37 UTC 2010

Re #22:

I had to figure out how to use the Grex dues payment system, which is 
configured for $6/m and $60/a dues, to pay a year's dues in the new dues 
rate of $18. So I upped for 3 months @ $6. IF the new dues rate passes, 
the retroactive clause will give me a year's membership at the new rate. 
If it doesn't pass, though, I'm stuck with just 3 months.....
 
Folks, please vote for the revised dues!  8^}
jgelinas
response 28 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 13:43 UTC 2010

It's tempting to leave bad enough as it is. ;)

So far, this proposal has generated no endorsements.  Nor has any
request for changes indicated that such a change would result in an
endorsement.  'Twould appear that cross was right, and the issue is
dead.
mary
response 29 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 14:21 UTC 2010

I'm thinking that since we are just now setting a new dues rate that it 
will probably be some time before another is needed.  If so, it would make 
sense to wait until the next change is indicated and at that point ask 
that the board be given the authority to set the rate.
jgelinas
response 30 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 19:42 UTC 2010

Or just stick with the current method?  A proposal, a discussion,
endorsements and a vote?
mary
response 31 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 21:16 UTC 2010

Works for me.  I really don't see how raising dues could ever be seen as 
an urgent matter.  Dues are for long term budgeting.
kentn
response 32 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 23:38 UTC 2010

So in essence, we have the Board decide what they want for a dues
structure via the usual consensus.  Then put it to a user vote using
the usual process (post proposal, endorse, vote).  That seems to retain
the member involvement we want.  If the Board gets to changing the dues
to often or tries to raise them too much, the member will have the
opportunity to vote the proposal down.
jgelinas
response 33 of 33: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:10 UTC 2010

And we leave the amount of the dues in the bylaws.  Works for me. :)
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