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Grex > Agora41 > #232: Possible Scam ALERT!!! ANN ARBOR | |
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jmsaul
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response 25 of 42:
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Jun 7 04:23 UTC 2002 |
I'm guessing too. I'm tempted anyway, thoguh.
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bdh3
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response 26 of 42:
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Jun 7 05:38 UTC 2002 |
re: A 'murphy' scam.
There are a clan of irish qypsies that live in the south
that are notorious for a number of scams. Every spring
they set out on road trips to fleese the greedy. The old
style scams of 'paint your house or barn for free, you
pay only for the paint' is one of thier signature scams.
They were profiled on 60Minutes and other places years ago
and I occasionally run across references especially with
respect to thier modernization.
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gull
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response 27 of 42:
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Jun 17 16:01 UTC 2002 |
This is off topic, but I wish I could get places to put the correct amount
of oil in my car. Everywhere, including the Honda dealership I bought it
from, overfills it by half a quart. I fret about this because on some cars
it can lead to blown crankshaft seals, though I don't know if that applies
to Hondas specifically. Since my car doesn't use a measurable amount of oil
between changes it's always overfilled.
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danr
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response 28 of 42:
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Jun 19 02:55 UTC 2002 |
Those oil change deals sound too good to be true. If you're religious
about oil changes--as my wife is--you could save a lot of money.
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mynxcat
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response 29 of 42:
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Jun 19 15:10 UTC 2002 |
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russ
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response 30 of 42:
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Jun 19 22:26 UTC 2002 |
<russ swaps mynxcat's safflower oil for extra-virgin olive oil>
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mynxcat
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response 31 of 42:
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Jun 20 03:46 UTC 2002 |
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other
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response 32 of 42:
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Jun 20 16:56 UTC 2002 |
gull, how do you know they put too much oil in? They may be charging you
for an amount rounded up to the next full quart, but not putting in more
than the manual indicates.
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gull
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response 33 of 42:
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Jun 20 17:15 UTC 2002 |
Because it consistently reads above the 'full' mark on the dipstick, by
about half the distance between the 'full' and 'add' marks. Since I know
the 'add' mark means to add one quart, I've come to the conclusion that the
crankcase has half a quart too much oil in it.
The manual specs 3.5 quarts for an oil change with filter. I suspect the
pump guns they use to fill the crankcase only let them add oil in one quart
increments. Either that or they really are putting in 3.5 quarts, and
there's half a quart of oil staying in the engine every time it's changed.
There *is* an oil bath for the camshaft that never completely empties, but
I'd assume Honda would take that into account when telling you how much oil
to put in when doing an oil change.
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scott
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response 34 of 42:
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Jun 20 19:26 UTC 2002 |
Make yourself a sign out of some kind of hard plastic saying "please 3.5
quarts only, or I'll track you down and eventually kill you". Attach it to
the fill cap.
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gull
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response 35 of 42:
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Jun 20 19:57 UTC 2002 |
I bet the underpaid drones at the oil change places would ignore it anyway.
The real solution would probably be to start doing my own oil changes.
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mdw
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response 36 of 42:
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Jun 23 02:09 UTC 2002 |
For what it's worth, on my Honda, the correct dip-stick reading
technique involves unscrewing it, cleaning it off, then dipping it in
(and *not* screwing it in), then withdrawing it & reading it. Screwing
it in would cause it to read high. So far as getting the old oil out
goes, there is supposed to be a 2nd drain plug forward on the front 2
cylinders, which should be drained to get absolutely all of the old oil
out.
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gull
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response 37 of 42:
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Jun 23 02:39 UTC 2002 |
Hmm. My Honda's dipstick isn't threaded, it just slides straight in.
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drew
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response 38 of 42:
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Jun 24 02:55 UTC 2002 |
Re #33:
Are you checking the oil with the engine hot or cold? It may make a
difference.
When you get the oil changed, they should show you the dipstick with the
fresh oil up to the full mark.
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gull
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response 39 of 42:
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Jun 24 12:57 UTC 2002 |
As far as I've been able to tell, they show me a dipstick with the oil
*over* the full mark, but at that point it's a bit late to do anything about
it. It's also hard to be sure, because fresh oil is pretty clear.
And yes, I'm checking with the engine cold.
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scg
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response 40 of 42:
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Jun 25 04:37 UTC 2002 |
Is Marcus's Honda a car or motorcycle?
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glenda
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response 41 of 42:
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Jun 25 10:41 UTC 2002 |
Motorcycle
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gull
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response 42 of 42:
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Jun 25 13:09 UTC 2002 |
Mine's a car. I guess that would make a difference. ;)
I've always figured motorcycle guys would be changing their own oil. The
ones I've known were always major wrench heads, which is probably important
given that motorcycles seem to break down a lot.
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