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response 25 of 37:
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May 17 14:40 UTC 2002 |
It IS only one letter different from the accepted contemporary spelling,
so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, despite the persuasiveness of
your argument, md.
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bdh3
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response 26 of 37:
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May 18 08:27 UTC 2002 |
re#24: Or I cut and pasted it from the 'news' (betcha that is
was it was).
re#8: Connect the dots...
The framers of the consitution (you know, those all knowing
forseeing genius types we all pretended to look up to but in
fact picked on in high school until they discovered firearms)
came from a certain mileu - were members of a culture where
certian values and assumptions were a given. Among them
obviously from the quote is that personal ownership of firearms
is a given, indeed required. Part of the requirement was to
appear at 'church' on sunday for purposes of increasing skill
in the use thereof. And 'church' being a convenient gathering
point where all would assemble so as not to inconvenience any
particular citizen by otherwise mandating one week-end a month
or some such thing...
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md
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response 27 of 37:
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May 18 14:08 UTC 2002 |
You mean you didn't research that yourself? You just copied-an-pasted
it from somewhere??
26: "all-knowing." "foreseeing" or "farseeing,"
whichever. "milieu." "certain." "church" (no quotes
needed). "Sunday." Plus the rambling pointless digressions, the
trailing off into mumbled weirdness at the end, and the hilarious idea
that the connection between a) folks in the "state" of Virginia in 1673
(still haven't explained that one) being required to bring their guns
to church, and b) "posting the 10 commandments," exists anywhere but in
your head, where the evil ACLU forces its atheistic agenda on helpless
children even as it while deprives their parents of guns or something.
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bru
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response 28 of 37:
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May 19 03:50 UTC 2002 |
I wonder if it is a continuation of the welsh practice of training with the
longbow, or just a realization that practice makes perfect and everybody is
in one place at this particular time.
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gelinas
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response 29 of 37:
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May 19 04:14 UTC 2002 |
Actually, that was English. One of the Henrys (II ?) decreed archery practice
after church.
Virginia still isn't a State; it's a Commonwealth (one of four). However,
I'm not sure that "state" isn't an applicable term for the colony before 1776.
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jp2
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response 30 of 37:
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May 19 16:45 UTC 2002 |
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rcurl
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response 31 of 37:
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May 19 19:05 UTC 2002 |
The Constitution refers only to States.
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scg
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response 32 of 37:
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May 19 23:23 UTC 2002 |
The term "state" tends to refer to a wide variety of countries and
country-like entities, some of which call themselves "States" and some of
which call themselves something different. The Commonwealths of Pennsylvania,
Virginia, Massachusetts, and whatever the fourth one is, are among the 50
States of the US. In this case, even State with a capital S seems to apply
in some contexts.
That Virginia law likely comes from a time when there wasn't much law
enforcement, weren't as many people around to get caught in the cross-fire,
and weren't the types of guns available today. It was presumably a law
requiring people to protect themselves, much like the laws today requiring
those riding in cars to wear seatbelts. Whether it was good public policy
then is probably a matter reasonably open to debate. Whether such a
requirement would be good public policy now is likely a quite different
question, given changed circumstances and knowledge about the effects of gun
violence on our modern society.
Shouldn't an infallable deity be able to spell deity however he says it's
spelled? ;)
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jp2
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response 33 of 37:
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May 19 23:47 UTC 2002 |
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gelinas
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response 34 of 37:
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May 20 02:42 UTC 2002 |
Yes, Kentucky, and my comment was a counter to the person (and I don't
care to scroll back to see who) who was complaining that Virginia of the
1600s should not be called a "state". If it wasn't then, it isn't now;
if it is now, it was then.
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md
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response 35 of 37:
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May 20 11:24 UTC 2002 |
It was a colony. Nobody called it a state.
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bruin
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response 36 of 37:
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May 20 13:43 UTC 2002 |
I do recall, in the movie "Dumb and Dumber", the motorcycle cop warning
that it was illegal to have an open alcohol container in the "State of
Pennsylvania". Don't know how the Internet Movie Database mixed that
goof.
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aruba
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response 37 of 37:
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May 20 14:57 UTC 2002 |
Richard - send it in to them; they'll add it to the database.
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