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Grex > Agora41 > #144: First second-hand smoke, now second-hand cellphone? | |
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brighn
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response 25 of 38:
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May 7 16:51 UTC 2002 |
#24> Heh.
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void
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response 26 of 38:
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May 7 17:23 UTC 2002 |
Hmmm. The term "third world" was first used by the French writer Alfred
Sauvy in 1952. He compared the third world of non-industrialized,
mostly poor countries to the third estate of the peasantry in
pre-revolution France, and implied that more industrialized nations were
comparable to the first and second estates.
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jp2
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response 27 of 38:
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May 7 17:28 UTC 2002 |
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void
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response 28 of 38:
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May 7 19:43 UTC 2002 |
Um, no. The book _Le Tiers-Monde_, inspired by earlier writings by
Sauvy (who was a demographer), was published in 1956. A periodical with
same title begin publication in 1959. In fact, Sauvy first used the
term "third world" ("tiers-monde," because it was in French) in an
article titled "Trois mondes, Une plančte" in the August, 1952 issue of
"L' Observateur." The magazine was a socialist rag, and the article had
more to do with which side in the Cold War would dominate the
underdeveloped countries of the third world. It made no mention of
third world countries simply being non-aligned ones, since the analogy
was being drawn between underdeveloped nations and 18th-century French
peasants.
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flem
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response 29 of 38:
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May 7 19:50 UTC 2002 |
Right. It was a post-colonial thing, the idea being that all these new
nations in Africa, South America, and Asia that had, until the middle of the
20th century, been dominated by European nations, but now had their
independence and were going to form new, enlightened governments based on
modern political theories.
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jp2
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response 30 of 38:
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May 7 20:58 UTC 2002 |
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gelinas
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response 31 of 38:
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May 8 03:08 UTC 2002 |
Actually, when I last looked this up, the earliest reference I could find was
a meeting in 1945 or so. It's been a decade or more since I cared enough to
research it, though. And I realised even then that some folks just don't care
to be told that they are wrong. No matter how wrong they are.
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slynne
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response 32 of 38:
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May 8 13:56 UTC 2002 |
you might be wrong about that, Joe.
;)
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janc
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response 33 of 38:
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May 14 20:10 UTC 2002 |
Re: rebar, universal joints, third world: Is everyone trying to prove
that they are smarter than everyone else, or just that they are better
at looking stuff up?
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rcurl
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response 34 of 38:
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May 14 22:53 UTC 2002 |
Do people ask questions about how others discuss stuff to show that
they are above such exchanges of trivial informaation?
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bdh3
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response 35 of 38:
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May 15 05:28 UTC 2002 |
yes
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senna
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response 36 of 38:
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May 15 22:32 UTC 2002 |
#34: Sure, the same way they ask questions to show that they are above such
exchanges of trivial theology.
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janc
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response 37 of 38:
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May 19 04:59 UTC 2002 |
Actually, when I do look a fact up, I usually do try to phrase my
response to say so. But that's because I have a lousy memory and I've
long since given up trying to impress people with my breadth of factual
knowledge.
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senna
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response 38 of 38:
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May 19 07:27 UTC 2002 |
#36 is a bit more mean-spirited than is really appropriate. I
apologize.
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