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slynne
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response 25 of 47:
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May 1 14:18 UTC 2002 |
Ok, what is a POTS line?
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glenda
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response 26 of 47:
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May 1 14:33 UTC 2002 |
Plain Old Telephone Service
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slynne
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response 27 of 47:
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May 1 16:24 UTC 2002 |
Oh Sheesh!
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blaise
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response 28 of 47:
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May 1 19:42 UTC 2002 |
One POTS line, one SDSL line, one cell line each (myself and wife), digital
cable. The POTS line has three phones connected -- kitchen corded w/ caller
ID, master bedroom cordless w/ caller ID, and office/guest bedroom cordless
w/o caller ID.
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oval
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response 29 of 47:
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May 1 21:59 UTC 2002 |
one land line, one phone in the wall, one cell not in use at the moment, two
modems.
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scg
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response 30 of 47:
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May 2 02:24 UTC 2002 |
I've got two POTS lines, one cell phone, one two way pager that I carry in
my laptop bag and use very rarely, and one DSL line. I don't talk on the
phone all that much at this point, so it really seems kind of excessive.
However, the pager and cell phone are paid for by work, as will be the second
phone line and DSL line when I get around to filing the expense reports. I
use the second phone line for work stuff occasionally, and give the number
out to companies I think might try to use it for telemarketing, and let it
go straight to the answering machine without ringing most of the time.
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gelinas
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response 31 of 47:
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May 2 04:07 UTC 2002 |
When we moved in, the house had five jacks, all wired with cat-3:
one in each bedroom, the kitchen and the living room. I replaced the
3x6 punch-down block with a 4x12 and added a jack (analog and ISDN) in
the basement. We now have one POTS and one ISDN line. The living room
has the only phone-less jack. Daughter-mine has a cell phone; the rest
of us live with the landline. If I recall correctly, the living room
and master bedroom have 'live' ISDN jacks as well as the analog jacks,
but nothing is plugged into them; the 'modem' is in the basement.
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jaklumen
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response 32 of 47:
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May 2 11:25 UTC 2002 |
one land line, one land/radio (900 Mhz cordless). I love my cordless,
but a 2.4 Ghz would be convenient since we have gotten occasional
cellular interference.
No cellular. Just can't afford that. Modem is dial-up too-- can't
afford DSL.
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keesan
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response 33 of 47:
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May 2 14:34 UTC 2002 |
What is a typical monthly phone bill for people with the multiple lines?
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slynne
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response 34 of 47:
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May 2 14:44 UTC 2002 |
Heh. I only have one phone line and I'll bet I pay at least double what
you pay because I like certain extra features.
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md
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response 35 of 47:
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May 2 16:08 UTC 2002 |
Two phone lines, one for voice and one for fax. We have one of those
Sony devices that has a base unit and four cordless extensions with
their own recharger bases. The little displays tell you which
extension is currently in use, if any. Very handy. Plus we all have
our own cell phones, so that totals six separate phone numbers.
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scg
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response 36 of 47:
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May 2 21:20 UTC 2002 |
I talked about jacks, but I forgot to talk about phones. I've got five rooms,
all of which have phone jacks. The kitchen has two phone jacks, for some
reason, although I'm only using one of them. I've got five phones, one for
each room. One is cordless; the rest are wired. The cordless phone and the
phone in my office are both two line phones, the rest talk only to one line.
A couple of those phones I use really rarely, but since it took me a while
to figure out where the movers had packed my phones when I moved here I had
to buy some new ones, so once I foudn the old ones I had extras that I figured
I might as well use.
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gelinas
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response 37 of 47:
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May 3 03:42 UTC 2002 |
My ISDN line is roughly twice the cost of an analog line. Since it is,
effectively, two lines, that makes sense. (Just remembered that it does, in
fact, have two telephone numbers associated with it.)
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jazz
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response 38 of 47:
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May 3 15:41 UTC 2002 |
One cell phone, and one cable modem. That's it. If the cable modem
goes out, I borrow someone else's connection, generally.
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jared
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response 39 of 47:
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May 3 16:07 UTC 2002 |
1) Cell Phone
2) 3x POTS lines
3) T1
4) Pager with direct 800/888/877-type number.
5) efax.com number that i can get faxes and voice-mail on.
(it e-mails you .rm files and .tiff files with the faxes/voices)
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gelinas
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response 40 of 47:
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May 4 04:09 UTC 2002 |
T1. That's the ticket.
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jared
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response 41 of 47:
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May 4 20:08 UTC 2002 |
actually there's 2 here, but one goes to a location where there
is no longer equipment so it's useless.
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janc
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response 42 of 47:
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May 17 11:28 UTC 2002 |
We have DSL in our new house, so the single line is used for both voice
and data. That means all the phones have to be on plugged into
filters. We only have three filters, so we only have three phones.
We're going to want to get at least one more, probably two.
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scott
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response 43 of 47:
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May 17 12:42 UTC 2002 |
Each filter can only support one phone?
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scg
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response 44 of 47:
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May 18 07:22 UTC 2002 |
In theory, you should be able to stick the filter between the test jack and
the cable that goes to the inside wiring in the network interface box, and
thus have it cover all your jacks. This assumes they split the DSL line off
at the network interface box (as they did for my DSL install), rather than
splitting it next to the jack inside (which I've also seen).
I'm not sure how much the filter actually does. In theory, the DSL signal
should be outside the audible frequency, and outside the range of frequencies
the microphone on your phone should be able to pick up. I think I recall
running my DSL line without the filters for its first few days, before
noticing the box of them that the installer left and deciding I should use
them, and I don't remember any problems with either the voice line or the DSL,
but I may be misremembering that. It may well be a good thing to separate
out the different frequencies as much as possible.
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bdh3
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response 45 of 47:
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May 18 07:44 UTC 2002 |
That is so bogus, dude! You should never agree to paying for
an (A)DSL line on the same pair as your phone line! I don't
think the current tariff rules allow them to charge you more
for wiring a separate pair for the (A)DSL line. What it
means is that when (and you can count on it) the SBC/Ameritech
infrastructure goes down for whatever reason (as it does often)
which is the underlying hardware no matter who you purchased
from, because of the filter you won't be able to get any more
than somewhere between 2400 and 4800 baud should you try to
use a modem as a backup. (Try it and tell me I'm wrong) Sure
your 'voice' line doesn't seem to be affected, but just try
to use it for data...
(Amend that, the current 'rules' say they can't charge more
to bring a separate pair to the 'network interface' and then
can only charge if the total run beyond that is more than
some number of feet beyond what you would normally have in
a house. It really should only become an issue if you
live in a large (high) apartment building with no free pairs.)
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scg
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response 46 of 47:
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May 19 00:08 UTC 2002 |
At least in California, in PacBell land, bringing in PacBell DSL on the same
pair as a phone line is just how it's done. That's the product. You can't
get it any other way. If you order DSL through a CLEC, such as Covad (I think
they're the only one left), they have to lease an entire pair so DSL gets its
own pair, but presumably if Covad were to start selling POTS service they'd
stick it on the same pair too.
The frequencies used by DSL are outside of the frequencies used by modems (and
probably outside of the frequencies that would get converted and transmitted
to the other end of a phone connection once your call hits the switch in the
local CO and goes digital). My modem still operates as well as it ever did
on the pair that also has the DSL. The only real problem with the arrangement
is that if your POTS or DSL line goes down due to a wire pair problem, you
can't use the other one as a backup.
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janc
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response 47 of 47:
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May 19 04:52 UTC 2002 |
When we use an unfiltered phone, there is loud static on the line,
enough to make it hard to hear the other person speaking. It sometimes
seemed that doing this messed up the DSL connection too, but the DSL
connection messes up often enough on its own that I'm not sure of that.
Yes, you can put multiple phones on the same filter. However, for the
most part we want different phones to be in different rooms, and we
don't want to run our own phone cables from room to room.
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