response 250 of 424:

Jan 23 01:56 UTC 2004

that is forcing staff to do all the scribbling of jep and valerie's items.
wouldn't they have to be logged on as "valerie" to scribble valerie's items?
I note that when I posted an item from mnet on grex in an agora item where
we were discussing whether user's owned their own words, and it was decided
to remove that post, that marcus (who took the action) did not scribble it,
he went in and edited the post and put xxx's through everything.  Can staff
actually "scribble" a post of another user without being logged on as that
user?  If staff would have to use root and edit each individual post and take
out the words one by one, that would take a lot of time.  Why pass such a
proposal unless its clear that somebody on staff is willing to volunteer to
take the time to do all that work?

response 252 of 424:

Jan 23 03:34 UTC 2004

And John Remmers has volunteered to do the grunt work.

response 254 of 424:

Jan 23 15:15 UTC 2004

Please consider removing all but what was part three.  That
last is more editorial comment and doesn't belong in the
motion.

response 256 of 424:

Jan 23 15:53 UTC 2004

I'd like to thank naftee for brining this matter to our attention.

response 258 of 424:

Jan 23 19:07 UTC 2004

Hi, this is your friendly voteadm person again.

The wording in Section 1 of #255 is acceptable, although I don't
think Section 2 is necessary and could give a misleading impression.
By default, policies take effect as soon as a passing result is
announced, and staff is always supposed to implement policies as
soon as practical.  Having that language in the proposal suggests
that those things are not the default.  Jamie, are you willing
to take that part out?

It appears that for the first time in Grex history we might be
voting on more than one proposal at the same time.  The current
vote program can handle that okay with a minor amount of
hack-work on my part, but I'm working on a rewrite that will
handle parallel votes with different expiration times gracefully,
and that will automate some things that I currently do by hand.  
I'd like to delay the start of voting until tomorrow (Saturday)
to see if I can get that operational.  If I do, I'll start the
vote using the new program; if not, I'll start it using the old
one.  Hopefully that's acceptable to folks.

response 260 of 424:

Jan 23 19:32 UTC 2004

Thanks for the willingness to be flexible.

Refresh my memory -- was more that one staff member involved in
deleting the items?  The proposal refers to "staff members".

response 262 of 424:

Jan 24 04:25 UTC 2004

I would also like to thank willcome and jp2 for their tireless efforts in
discussing the matter with the users of GreX.

response 264 of 424:

Jan 24 17:27 UTC 2004

Re #261: You can avoid naming names and still be factually accurate.