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krj
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response 24 of 210:
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Feb 27 21:00 UTC 1998 |
((( radio #203 now linked as music #115 )))
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orinoco
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response 25 of 210:
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Feb 27 22:45 UTC 1998 |
Interesting. Pity I'm stuck on a lowly Mac IIsi...
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mcnally
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response 26 of 210:
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Feb 27 23:07 UTC 1998 |
(way back in #6: the "T" in TCP/IP stands for "Transmission",
not "Terminal")
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rcurl
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response 27 of 210:
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Feb 27 23:09 UTC 1998 |
Thanks (I sometimes wing it when I can't recall....).
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raven
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response 28 of 210:
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Feb 28 01:06 UTC 1998 |
re # 25 An IIsi should be able to atleast deal with 8 bit sound if you can find
an old sound card for it. Thge other question is do you have ppp/slip web
access ie using netscape, mosaic, or I.E. as your browser?
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keesan
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response 29 of 210:
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Feb 28 03:19 UTC 1998 |
What are the absolute minimal requirements to listen to internet radio? One
Finnish news or talk station allowed I think a 2400 baud modem, but how fast
a computer, etc. (I have an XT clone, myself, would a 386 dx work?)
Does anyone have other good 'stations' to suggest?
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mcnally
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response 30 of 210:
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Feb 28 04:12 UTC 1998 |
It might depend on how you were listening to it and what format it was
in -- some of the audio formats that are heavy on compression require
much more CPU power to play (because the player programs usually want to
decompress them on the fly and if they can't keep up then you either start
and stop a lot or just skip parts, either one of which makes it quite
difficult to listen to..)
2400 baud is probably way too low to get any sort of intelligible real-time
sound quality, especially if you add TCP or some other protocol overhead
on top of that. Most streaming sound formats (play as you download..)
require at least 19.2kbps for decent sound quality. if you're not using
a streaming format of some sort but are downloading big sound files
(compressed or not..) then speed doesn't matter (as long as you're willing
to put up with the wait..)
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orinoco
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response 31 of 210:
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Feb 28 16:32 UTC 1998 |
I've got Netscape, and a 33.6 modem - but the speed at which I can recieve
is limited by the speed of the IIsi, not the speed of the modem.
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keesan
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response 32 of 210:
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Feb 28 17:23 UTC 1998 |
How many formats are there? Rane could play Realaudio, with Realplayer, at
28.8, and there was one other (I don't recall the name) on a long list of
stations with links. Are there others?
I am supposed to ask if it is enough to have a 4 M (K?) cache rather than a
high-speed computer, we have a 386 dx and can get a sound card. (Then there
is the need for an ISP other then grex, and another phone line...).
Should somebody link this item to micros or hardware?
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orinoco
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response 33 of 210:
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Feb 28 22:48 UTC 1998 |
It's already linked to someplace...
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krj
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response 34 of 210:
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Mar 1 07:38 UTC 1998 |
((radio and music conferences))
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n8nxf
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response 35 of 210:
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Mar 2 12:54 UTC 1998 |
I have a IIsi too. I've never tried RealAudio simply because I do not
have a connection to the internet from home. (I do from work and only
eat and sleep at home these days, so why pay for it?) The IIsi has
audio built in, like all Macs, and will even do stereo if you use the
connector on the rear of the machine. I pulled the CPU clock, in my
IIsi, and replaced it with one so that machine runs at 25 MHz instead
or 20 MHz. I had a 60 MHz clock in it (30 MHz for the machine.) but
it would not power up reliably. Once running, however, it ran fine at
30 MHz. I brought it back down to 50 MHz to be on the reliable side.
(If I ever get some time I may put a VCO into so I can ramp up the clock
after I start up the machine ;-)
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keesan
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response 36 of 210:
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Mar 2 17:51 UTC 1998 |
What is the cheapest internet provider around that will give you unlimited
time and allow the use of Realaudio? What does unlimited time cost?
(I have only grex and m-net.)
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orinoco
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response 37 of 210:
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Mar 2 18:07 UTC 1998 |
Well, realaudio is a program you have on your machine, not a service your ISP
provides.
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rcurl
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response 38 of 210:
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Mar 3 00:23 UTC 1998 |
The system requirements for Realplayer/realaudio are in
http://christie.prognet.com/products/player/sysreq.html
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keesan
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response 39 of 210:
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Mar 4 18:52 UTC 1998 |
'The page you requested does not exist on this server'. Rane, could you post
the requirements in this item, if they are not too long (or in a file
somewhere otherwise) for those of us dependent on lynx? Thanks.
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rcurl
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response 40 of 210:
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Mar 4 19:13 UTC 1998 |
There is a table there with requirements vs connection type for Windows,
Macintosh and Unix environments. The requirements for Windows with a 28.8
connection are 486/66 DX CPU, 8M RAM, 2M HD (available), and SLIP/PP
connection with TCP/IP. In effect, you have to be able to run a full browser.
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keesan
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response 41 of 210:
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Mar 5 02:48 UTC 1998 |
Thanks, what is all this likely to cost used?
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rcurl
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response 42 of 210:
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Mar 5 07:23 UTC 1998 |
Have you visited Computer Renaissance?
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keesan
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response 43 of 210:
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Mar 5 21:56 UTC 1998 |
No, it is much cheaper to buy directly from people, such as grexers.
And what would the cheapest Internet Service Provider cost which would support
unlimited connection time and allow RealAudio? I might be willing to pay
$20/month for three more radio stations which play music during rush hours,
and the extra phone line would be useful for other things (such as getting
phone calls on my original line).
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rcurl
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response 44 of 210:
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Mar 6 01:54 UTC 1998 |
You won't get both an extra phone line and an ISP for $20/mo. Maybe ca.
$30 for both. It is cheaper to buy directly from people, but you won't
have the same level of startup assistance and service. Anyway, I was
suggesting Computer Renaissance to obtain an idea of a reference point
for the cost of used but guaranteed equipment.
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keesan
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response 45 of 210:
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Mar 6 20:41 UTC 1998 |
With the micros conference, who needs to pay for startup assistance?
Maybe I will wait on this one until the house is built, and I can use the
phone line there for radio instead of calling Jim to lunch, and by then 486s
should be discarded in the alleyway where we found a 386. And there may be
more radio stations on the Internet, too. Thanks for all the info, everyone.
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omni
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response 46 of 210:
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Mar 7 06:37 UTC 1998 |
If you have the ganas (desire) you can build your own, I was doing that
until this computer fell into my lap. I can probably build one for about $200
inc hard drive and 8MB of memory, and beleive me, you'll probably need every
bit of that 8Megs for Netscape.
I still will build my 486, just because I have the desire and a bitchin
486DX66 chip that I'm dying to use. I don't have the cash available yet, but
I'm waiting patiently.
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keesan
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response 47 of 210:
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Mar 7 16:14 UTC 1998 |
Omni, would you like to link this item to 'micros'?
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omni
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response 48 of 210:
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Mar 7 17:09 UTC 1998 |
Not really. It's already linked to the music conference, and I think that
is suffiecient. I'm not one to overlink items. I've done less than 20 in 7
yrs.
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