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other
response 24 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 14:29 UTC 2003

I thought those were all Klez variations.
gull
response 25 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 18:34 UTC 2003

Maybe they are.  I haven't been keeping track.
goose
response 26 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 20:33 UTC 2003

Can anyone give us an 'official' explaination as to why Grex was down for so
long the other day?
mynxcat
response 27 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 20:40 UTC 2003

read coop
scott
response 28 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 22:08 UTC 2003

UPS again.  STeve is looking into getting fresh batteries.
mcnally
response 29 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 22:59 UTC 2003

  BTW, "watch" has been reporting that "woot" is logged onto console
  for a couple of days now.  Perhaps it's just a ghost in wtmp
  (or wherever watch gets its info) but if not, even on console leaving
  a root user logged in isn't a particularly good idea..
goose
response 30 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 23:26 UTC 2003

RE#27 -- I don't want to.  Plus this is the Grex system problem item....;-)
badman
response 31 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 23:14 UTC 2003

Hi every one! Im new to grex so i have no idea what you are talking 
about.... im new to shells too so maybe some people can help me out? 
thanks.
mcnally
response 32 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 23:43 UTC 2003

  With a name like that, we expect you to be omniscient..
keesan
response 33 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 18 23:35 UTC 2003

When I logged in:  mesg:  Unable to find your tty (ttyt0) in utmp file.
Might I have done something stupid to .cshrc or .login?  It all seems to work
anyway.  I think I set things to force vt100.
jor
response 34 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 01:09 UTC 2003

        I don't believe it's your startup file(s),
        and I'm glad it's here not . .
        that other Unix system.

        Maybe ttyt0 escaped to M-Net.
krj
response 35 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 04:41 UTC 2003

The system periodically "loses" a tty or two somehow.  When one gets
the message described by Sindi, it means you've connected to one of 
those "lost" ttys.   I had a similar tty tonight.  Tels won't work
on a "lost" tty; if this is a problem, just log out and log in again,
and hope you get a different tty.   I don't know of anything else 
which fails on a "lost" tty.
shodan
response 36 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 12:09 UTC 2003

i don not now way telnet can not  fonction clarly..
mynxcat
response 37 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 12:51 UTC 2003

I'm on the lost tty now. I've had this problem before.
keesan
response 38 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 16:11 UTC 2003

I got the same message when I logged out and logged in again to a different
account, but today it is okay.  
keesan
response 39 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 22 15:30 UTC 2003

Today grex lost my tty again, but to compensate yesterday it started letting
me save mail messages and things I print (P) with lynx again.
keesan
response 40 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 18:03 UTC 2003

I just figured out why I can telnet from a Linux computer and use Lynx with
arrow keys from my new (keesan2) account, whichhad no .cshrc, but it was not
recognizing the terminal type when telnetting with myold account:
tcsh:  No entry for terminal type "linux"
tcsh:  Using dumb terminal type

I had to set terminal type to VT100 every time before using Lynx (or the arrow
keys would not work).

My first account had some lines in .cshrc which I did not put there and when
I removed them things worked properly.  Now it forces vt100 instead of using
dumb terminal.

Anyway, there is some problem with what used to be the settings in .cshrc
(from about five years ago).  THere was a tset line that might have been
interfering with the tset vt100 line in .login.  I removed that and everything
else but the personal aliases.
naftee
response 41 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 02:12 UTC 2003

UUH OKAY
22878 naftee    38    0 3380K 3688K run/3   0:07  8.67%  7.03% top
21955 root      -5    0  940K  536K sleep   0:03 15.79%  1.56% sendmail
  665 root      15    0   12K    8K sleep 546:32  2.29%  1.56% update
22918 root      41    0  896K  452K run/0   0:00  7.69%  0.39% sendmail
keesan
response 42 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 02:24 UTC 2003

I would love to have someone interpret #41.
other
response 43 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 03:29 UTC 2003

Sindi, I would be curious if, based on what you have learned in your 
years of tinkering with computers, you would take a stab at interpreting 
it yourself, and sharing that with the rest of us.
jor
response 44 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 11:39 UTC 2003

        Sindi take a glance at the manpage for top
tod
response 45 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 12:32 UTC 2003

This response has been erased.

jazz
response 46 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 14:52 UTC 2003

        Not enough information to respond.  Any one given process can look
like that if the system is heavily loaded enough, if it's responsible for
any of the load at all.  I'd imagine the real problem at the time is too
many users with too many processes.
jhudson
response 47 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 19:08 UTC 2003

Isn't update the process that sync's disks every 90 seconds or so?
If so, than this symptom is simply of an overloaded machine.
mdw
response 48 of 224: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 22:23 UTC 2003

Update naturally accumulates time in operation.  This is a function of
the amount of disk disk writes, size of the buffer pool, and other
factors.  On grex which is usually busy doing something that involves
disk writes, update manages to consume about 1.72 seconds every minute.
That works out to 103 seconds per hour.  An accumulated runtime of
546:32 should correspond to an uptime of approximately 13 days 5 hours.

The time update spends is basically part of "sytem overhead".  Newer
systems may be more efficient at this, perhaps.  OpenBSD does not have
/usr/sbin/update, but it does have a kernel process that does
effectively the same thing.  On an ultrasparc1 running openbsd, update
seems to be accumulating only .06 seconds per minute, but this machine
is *much* less busy than grex.  On an AIX machines, I got only .03
seconds/minute, but since that machine isn't running ffs but instead
jfs, I don't know that this number is at all comparable.
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