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Grex > Coop > #262: The problems with validation | |
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tonster
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response 24 of 42:
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Jan 20 02:50 UTC 2010 |
well said. I especially like the SUV comparison, although I'd change it
to a hummer.
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cross
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response 25 of 42:
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Jan 20 03:27 UTC 2010 |
Yeah, Hummer is the better analogy. I should also note that Chad is now
back on M-Net.
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remmers
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response 26 of 42:
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Jan 20 12:36 UTC 2010 |
Re resp:23 and resp:24 - If that's the way you feel about Grex, my
question would be: Why do either of you want to have anything to
do with it? Why do you hang around this awful place?
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veek
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response 27 of 42:
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Jan 20 14:13 UTC 2010 |
Re #26: it's kind of like wives.. just because they get old, crabby is
no reason to dump emm :p
(anyway, M-net hasn't got a thicker hide or anything far as I could
tell. The crowd is younger and more willing to scrap. Then they have
better staff and a board that sleeps most of the time. It works because
tony/rex are mostly nice guys.. so benevolent CEO and a sleepy board)
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tonster
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response 28 of 42:
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Jan 20 14:36 UTC 2010 |
resp:26: I think resp:23 answers that question as well. There exists
the mentality that allows for idiots like Chad to come around and beat
the system, while at the same time there is still an appeal of
participating in the conversations that take place. As well, we don't
get easily offended like so many grexers do and can ignore the idiots.
Chad persisted in his behavior on both systems for far too long, though.
Hopefully he doesn't come around again now that grex is back.
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mary
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response 29 of 42:
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Jan 20 14:54 UTC 2010 |
I don't think that answered the question posed in #26. If Grex is as bad
as you (agreeing with Dan) think, why are you here?
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nharmon
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response 30 of 42:
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Jan 20 15:01 UTC 2010 |
Perhaps the redeeming qualities are better?
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cross
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response 31 of 42:
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Jan 20 17:51 UTC 2010 |
resp:26 Well, that's really irrelevant.... The question was why
the grex community was more susceptable to people like chad. Those
responses were the answers.
That doesn't mean that I don't think that Grex has a lot to offer,
as Nate points out in resp:30.
Another point is that the vast majority of Grex users fall outside
of the Grex community proper, if one defines that community as those
who participate in BBS and/or party. It is this latter that people
take issue with; most Grex users just don't care.
In short, my definition of Grex is rather broader than most. I
don't see it only as a BBS for the Ann Arbor, MI community. If people
see it that way, they are probably viewing things with an outdated
point of view.
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mary
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response 32 of 42:
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Jan 20 18:32 UTC 2010 |
Glad to hear you think Grex has some good points. I do too.
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cross
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response 33 of 42:
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Jan 20 18:45 UTC 2010 |
Good!
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sholmes
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response 34 of 42:
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Jan 21 01:10 UTC 2010 |
does it sound like that a girl who dresses skimpily asked to be raped ?
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cross
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response 35 of 42:
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Jan 21 01:52 UTC 2010 |
Huh?
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tonster
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response 36 of 42:
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Jan 21 03:52 UTC 2010 |
ditto resp:35
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veek
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response 37 of 42:
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Jan 21 12:40 UTC 2010 |
he meant Mary's statement: if you don't like it here, why are you
here?? He was wondering if that wasn't a little like, a skimpily
clothed chick was asking to be raped.
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veek
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response 38 of 42:
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Jan 21 12:41 UTC 2010 |
hey SH, welcome back :)
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sholmes
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response 39 of 42:
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Jan 22 01:25 UTC 2010 |
#37
No i did not mean that.
I meant that the ongoing discussion sounded like its grex fault that
cdalten was being an ass.
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cross
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response 40 of 42:
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Jan 22 01:25 UTC 2010 |
It's not Grex's fault, but Grex certainly attracts that type of person.
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madmike
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response 41 of 42:
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Mar 16 19:27 UTC 2010 |
The type of person grex attracts? I really dont look at grex as attracting
a TYPE of person. Although the mentality of a system that leads to trying to
assign TYPE to its users does not sound very attractive to me. The very notion
of openess is what first attracted me to Grex. By browsing the list of
available conferences I was left with the impression that this was a place
that attracted all types - every type.
The one thing that _could_ be said about anyone you are likely to come across
is that they share a common intrest in a UNIX style BBS System and are likely
_bent_ towards text and the written word. If you are the TYPE that wants
pictures I doubt I will run into you very often here. If you cant read english
you will likely feel the sting of rejection if you come to Grex. So why not
at least open the doors enough to give the people what they come here for.
Like an introductory conference of some sort. Perhaps open a separate instance
of a general type conference ~Welcome To YOU~ . And let the visitor jump right
in. Establish some goals that must be acheived before allowing anyone behind
the curtain. The old timers could moderate if you will - or not. Perhaps the
nubee could be required to write a 500 word essay on ~Why I Want In~. Publish
those on the website and let the public read the reasons people give for
wanting to get in to Cyberspace. Behind the curtain could be the lure of
command line, email, party, games and a community of folks that have also paid
their _dues_ to get in - giving everyone one more thing in common.
If there ar a substantial number of people who want to hack their way into
a system why not offer a DMZ to mess with. Something similar to the primary
system but disconnected for safety. Let the Hacking cuz nobody loves me crowd
would have their own conference and discuss how they are able (or trying) to
break-in but they might develop too much community spirit to think about
trying that in their own home. A close eye on the DMZ would give sysops a clue
as to the vulnerabilities and vectors.
I was a bit offended by the cross characterization of the grex community and
wonder if oftentimes we are seeing the pot calling the kettle black. (but that
would never happen here.)
I really do like everything about Grex. I have alway wondered though, if it
couldnt offer more. Keep fighting the good fight. Check ya L8er
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scholar
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response 42 of 42:
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Mar 17 00:26 UTC 2010 |
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