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michaela
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response 237 of 413:
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Nov 6 10:08 UTC 2003 |
IBB I've had severe insomnia for a week. I'm about to try melatonin since the
usual stuff is only keeping me asleep for three hours. :( This is really
starting to aggravate me.
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tsty
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response 238 of 413:
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Nov 6 10:51 UTC 2003 |
damn, other ... taht really sucks. was tehre some incident in the past
that mght ahve contributed to your current grief?
i have a littel numbness in middle-toes, now and then. nothing in my
past, though, that would indicate a current problem.
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jep
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response 239 of 413:
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Nov 6 13:52 UTC 2003 |
re resp:236: Bruce, the deer was killed. Someone stopped to see if I
was all right, then politely asked me if I minded if he took it. I let
him take it and he came back with his sister, and they took it away. I
don't know how to process a deer and also, since I live in an
apartment, wouldn't have any place to store the meat anyway.
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edina
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response 240 of 413:
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Nov 6 14:28 UTC 2003 |
Yum, venison. I do love venison.
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gull
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response 241 of 413:
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Nov 6 15:09 UTC 2003 |
Bumper-tenderized!
The old beater Volvo I recently bought hit a deer a few weeks before I
bought it. The damage was limited to a smashed right front turn signal,
which the previous owner replaced before selling me the car.
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keesan
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response 242 of 413:
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Nov 6 15:12 UTC 2003 |
The deer was not damaged?
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gull
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response 243 of 413:
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Nov 6 16:37 UTC 2003 |
It ran off, so apparently not seriously.
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aruba
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response 244 of 413:
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Nov 6 16:49 UTC 2003 |
John - I've always wondered what it would be like to be in an accident where
the airbag opens. Do you think it helped prevent you from being hurt?
Could you see over it, and could you still steer? (My car predates airbags,
so forgive me if these are dumb questions.)
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gull
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response 245 of 413:
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Nov 6 16:56 UTC 2003 |
I've never been in an accident with airbag deployment, but from what I've
heard they don't stay inflated like in sitcoms. They inflate, and almost
immediately deflate through vents in the bag.
I'm curious about John's experiences too, though.
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bru
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response 246 of 413:
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Nov 6 17:21 UTC 2003 |
there is a place outside of clinton you used to be able to take the deer to
and they would process it for you for a fee.
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jep
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response 247 of 413:
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Nov 6 18:45 UTC 2003 |
About the airbag... no, it didn't do me any good. I did get a slight
welt, about 4 inches long and resembling a scratch, from the airbag
deploying. My 7 year old, sitting in the front seat next to me, was
completely uninjured.
The airbag went off with a "bang" and a little bit of smoke, and
afterward, briefly made me think the car was on fire. The police told
me that 90% of reported car fires in accidents are from the airbag
deploying and are not really fires. I didn't realize the airbag had
gone off until I had the car stopped. It was later that I sorted out
my impressions of the accident and tied the "bang" sound to the
airbag. Accidents are confusing because a lot of unfamiliar things are
happening all at once. (The crash, the fate of the deer, the airbag
going off, making sure my kid and I were all right, the damage to the
car, making sure we got out of the road so we wouldn't get hit by
another car, etc.)
The airbag inflated, deflated, and then hung from the center of the
steering wheel. It was not in the way of me steering. It definitely
wasn't an obstruction for me seeing out of the car.
If I make it to where the car is stored right now before they take it
away, I'll try to take a few pictures so you can see what the airbag
looks like after it was deployed.
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jep
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response 248 of 413:
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Nov 6 19:20 UTC 2003 |
I have not been a believer in air bags in the past, and am not one now
after my experience of Tuesday night.
I think driver-side air bags are enough of a danger to enough people
that they should not be standard equipment on vehicles. If I were
given the choice, were I to buy a new car, I'd choose to not have an
airbag.
Passenger side air bags *kill* children. I definitely don't want a
safety device on my car which might kill my son. If I get a newer car,
I'll be trying to find someone who can disable the passenger side
airbag for me. I'd prefer not to get a car that new.
On my old car, the air bag shouldn't have gone off. A newer car has
sensors which would have prevented the air bag from deploying for that
type of accident. How are those sensors going to work on present-day
new cars when they're 10 or 15 years old? I wouldn't bet on them
working very well.
Once the air bag goes off, the car is essentially ruined. The assessor
told me it costs $1500 just to replace the airbag, once it's gone off.
Insurance companies typically total the car, even cars only a couple of
years old, *just* because the airbag went off, according to the man who
originally towed my car.
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happyboy
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response 249 of 413:
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Nov 6 19:27 UTC 2003 |
did you have those *deer whistles* on your bumper?
they cost about 7 bucks (no pun intended)
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tod
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response 250 of 413:
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Nov 6 19:49 UTC 2003 |
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rcurl
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response 251 of 413:
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Nov 6 20:33 UTC 2003 |
"Deer whistles" have been tested, and they do not work to prevent car-deer
collisions.
It has been shown from analyses of accidents that air bags save many more
lives than they cost. Children that are so young they might be injured by
an air bag should NOT be seated in the front seat. (I think I also read
that air bags are being given smaller charges to compromise on the chances
of injury by the accident vs by the airbag, but of course older airbags
are not being recalled.)
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tod
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response 252 of 413:
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Nov 6 20:59 UTC 2003 |
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slynne
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response 253 of 413:
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Nov 6 22:04 UTC 2003 |
Resp:248 - if the car is totalled because it costs too much to replace
the airbag and since you dont like airbags anyways, why not just fix
the car and *not* replace the airbag
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cmcgee
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response 254 of 413:
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Nov 7 00:27 UTC 2003 |
I was in a collision that crunched the driver side of my car and the front.
Airbag went off, saved me from the windshield and was replaced along with the
panels when the insurance company had the car fixed.
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bhoward
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response 255 of 413:
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Nov 7 00:46 UTC 2003 |
My mom was in a very similar accident a few years ago. Some idiot kid
triggered a multicar collision that resulted in several totalled cars
including hers.
The one thing that saved her life and saved her from serious injury
was the air bag system.
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happyboy
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response 256 of 413:
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Nov 7 01:53 UTC 2003 |
re251: SOURCE PLZ.
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jep
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response 257 of 413:
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Nov 7 03:37 UTC 2003 |
re resp:253: The person who decided the car should be totalled told me
he'd counted $5500 in damage before he stopped. About $1500 of that
must have been the airbag. I'm not much interested in putting $4000
or more into a 1992 Taurus with 140,000 miles.
I'd be interested in a source for resp:251, too, if it's available and
you don't mind, Rane. I'm inclined to believe you on statistics...
but am also inclined to distrust airbags because they *are* such a
danger to children and small adults. Whether they're a good thing
overall or not, the fact is, the risk to my son goes up a lot if he
rides in the front seat of a car that has an airbag, compared to one
that does not have one.
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rcurl
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response 258 of 413:
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Nov 7 03:55 UTC 2003 |
For example,
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/airbags/208con2e.html
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gelinas
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response 259 of 413:
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Nov 7 04:00 UTC 2003 |
I thought happyboy was asking for a source about the futility of deer
whistles.
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rcurl
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response 260 of 413:
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Nov 7 04:12 UTC 2003 |
He didn't say which assertion. For deer whistlesm try
http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmj/9705/rm970503.htm
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gelinas
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response 261 of 413:
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Nov 7 04:52 UTC 2003 |
I like the taped dog-barks. :)
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