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Grex > Helpers > #147: Grex System Problems - Winter 2005/06 | |
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mcnally
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response 236 of 260:
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Mar 17 17:43 UTC 2006 |
re #234:
> Could a staff member PLEASE write sorbs.net about getting
> us off their stupid blacklist?
Someone could, but it would have exactly the same affect as you
doing so, i.e. none at all. Blacklists don't remove your host
just because you send them an email asking them to -- if they did
the spammers would just do that when they got blocked.
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tod
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response 237 of 260:
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Mar 17 17:59 UTC 2006 |
re #226
There are better options than Grex. I think that is what we're saying.
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jep
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response 238 of 260:
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Mar 17 19:07 UTC 2006 |
I had Grex removed from comcast.net's blacklist by sending them an e-
mail, so sometimes it can be done. I also had Sterling Commerce, my
employer, removed from their blacklist.
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bru
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response 239 of 260:
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Mar 17 19:54 UTC 2006 |
I guess the point is that tehr is no harm in trying to speak with these people
adn get the blacklist removed. All they can do is say No. One has to ask.
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keesan
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response 240 of 260:
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Mar 17 19:56 UTC 2006 |
Can an ISP that is using the sorbs blacklist whitelist grex so grex mail gets
through the sorbs filter? Are there any grexers who are also paying AOL?
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tod
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response 241 of 260:
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Mar 17 19:59 UTC 2006 |
Why would someone whitelist Grex which allows email abuse?
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keesan
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response 242 of 260:
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Mar 17 20:13 UTC 2006 |
How is grex allowing email abuse?
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bru
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response 243 of 260:
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Mar 17 20:32 UTC 2006 |
because we do not verify people who log in, and our staff does not take action
to halt abuse in a quick and efficient manner.
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tod
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response 244 of 260:
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Mar 17 20:45 UTC 2006 |
re #242
Grex allows email attachments which may include viruses and overall allows
anyone to log into grex and send spam unchecked out to the masses (thus
causing these blacklist problems.)
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rcurl
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response 245 of 260:
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Mar 17 20:46 UTC 2006 |
Grex is going to start (or already is) losing members - *supporting* members
- if it isn't apparent that eveything possible is being done to allow Grex
users access to these blocking ISPs. I have the impression that some users
here just think this funny. I wonder how many donating members do?
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tod
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response 246 of 260:
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Mar 17 21:01 UTC 2006 |
I'm a donating member and I think resistance is futile. Email woes are a flea
the old Grex dog can't scratch. So..get rid of Internet e-mail or else figure
out how to sub it out to another ISP that will do the hard labor more
efficiently....
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kingjon
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response 247 of 260:
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Mar 17 21:04 UTC 2006 |
Your first suggestion has already been adopted as a stopgap measure.
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tod
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response 248 of 260:
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Mar 17 21:17 UTC 2006 |
Well..that should pretty much remedy it I would think.
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slynne
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response 249 of 260:
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Mar 17 23:54 UTC 2006 |
When it comes to being a provider of email, grex has some issues. One of
them is that our open door policy has led us to be blacklisted. It might
be true that will lead us to lose some paying members. It is too bad.
But if we were to change our open newuser policy, we would lose members
too.
However, I think the staff are doing a really find job dealing wtih this
email thing and while it might not get us off blacklists we are
currently on, it might prevent us from being added to more.
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i
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response 250 of 260:
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Mar 17 23:58 UTC 2006 |
Given that several of the blacklists appear to be IP#-based, how much
good might it do if we moved to another block of IP #'s with Provide.net,
vs. how much hassle would it be do that?
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keesan
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response 251 of 260:
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Mar 18 01:06 UTC 2006 |
Is anyone still working on a way to limit outgoing mail to non-members and
allowing new users to have outgoing mail again? IT is not stop-gap if it
lasts indefinitely.
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jep
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response 252 of 260:
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Mar 18 02:21 UTC 2006 |
I'm a contributor. E-mail isn't important to me as a function of Grex,
not any more. I'm sorry we can't really provide it any more, but it is
clear we can't do a good job at it these days. Fortunately there are
alternatives.
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tsty
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response 253 of 260:
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Mar 18 06:37 UTC 2006 |
excuse me for speaking up, but, grex has a mission that is severely
compromised, yet again, by *some* sort of .... something.
free access, free email, free confrencing, free party, free unix.
to me, those are not too difficult to maintain/sustain.
we have lost *old* email and now we are losing *new* email.
sombody(ies) "in charge" has/have a serious task to accomplish.
hell, even keesan and rcurl are bitching up a strum&drang. what next?
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rcurl
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response 254 of 260:
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Mar 18 06:44 UTC 2006 |
Maybe it needs to be determined what fraction of current supporters would be
lost with the end of reliable e-mail. If it is minor, then why not just give
up e-mail as a service to anyone? Lots more memory and faster processing for
everything else users do.
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bru
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response 255 of 260:
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Mar 18 12:50 UTC 2006 |
follow m-nets lead?
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keesan
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response 256 of 260:
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Mar 18 13:49 UTC 2006 |
Putting on a spam filter would free up a great deal of memory.
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tod
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response 257 of 260:
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Mar 18 19:59 UTC 2006 |
Spam Cop and throttled outbound SMTP would help a ton but who is going to
maintain and configure it system-wide from the staff?
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rcurl
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response 258 of 260:
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Mar 18 20:08 UTC 2006 |
Staff?
Inre #254: of course Grex doesn't have to abandon e-mail between its users,
but outbound e-mail is now so compromised by not having access to AOL and
other servers that it might as well be abandoned. Then Grex can be honest
about the services it offers.
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keesan
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response 259 of 260:
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Mar 18 22:14 UTC 2006 |
Someone tried twice to send me an email and it got bounced back due to 'too
much traffic'. Grex is not the best place to receive mail either.
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wilt
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response 260 of 260:
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May 16 23:51 UTC 2006 |
HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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