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jor
response 235 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 12:36 UTC 2004

        But I get the same delay via dialin.
davel
response 236 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 13:16 UTC 2004

Dialin is really a telnet connection, from the termserver.
naftee
response 237 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 16:39 UTC 2004

i just aspirated on some apple juice :(
mcnally
response 238 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 23:41 UTC 2004

The mysterious 79 second delay also seems to affect outgoing mail.
For instance, if I start a clock ticking and then send mail to 
my Gmail account it hangs for about 79 seconds (there's that number
again!) before connecting:

grex% ./tick.csh; sleep 2; echo "starting mail test now"; date \
      | Mail -v -s "test mail" mmcnally@gmailDOTcom
[1] 17068
Wed Sep 15 19:33:02 EDT 2004
starting mail test now
Wed Sep 15 19:33:04 EDT 2004
mmcnally@gmail.com... Connecting to gsmtp171.google.com. (smtp)...
Wed Sep 15 19:33:10 EDT 2004
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220 mx.gmail.com ESMTP 80si57756rnb
>>> HELO grex.cyberspace.org
250 mx.gmail.com at your service
>>> MAIL From:<mcnally@cyberspace.org>
250 OK
>>> RCPT To:<mmcnally@gmail.com>
250 OK
>>> DATA
354 Go ahead
>>> .
Wed Sep 15 19:34:24 EDT 2004
250 OK 1095291185
mmcnally@gmail.com... Sent (OK 1095291185)
Closing connection to gsmtp171.google.com.
>>> QUIT
221 mx.gmail.com closing connection
grex%
Wed Sep 15 19:34:25 EDT 2004
gelinas
response 239 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 03:03 UTC 2004

Odd.  The same thing happens with traceroute, to an IP address.
marcvh
response 240 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 04:00 UTC 2004

How about traceroute -n to an IP address?
gelinas
response 241 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 04:29 UTC 2004

Same delay.  FWIW, the delay does NOT appear between hops, just on the
start-up.
mcnally
response 242 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 06:36 UTC 2004

 Are there any outgoing IP applications that are not effected?
remmers
response 243 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 12:18 UTC 2004

Outgoing telnet isn't affected.
mcnally
response 244 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 17:00 UTC 2004

  Hmmm..  
  What do the affected programs have in common?
  What is the significance of the common ~79 second delay?
  What changed during the reconstruction of the boot drive
    that might explain this?

  Any ideas, anyone?


  It really does not appear to be name-service related, as both
  forward and reverse lookups seem to finish in normal amounts
  of time using nslookup, which presumably uses the same underlying
  resolver calls.

  What else might have some timeout that's taking place?
naftee
response 245 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 19:30 UTC 2004

It's faster to use fronttalk from M-net than to try to SSH into GreX and use
BBS.
drew
response 246 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 04:59 UTC 2004

Ftp keeps timing out.

psftp gets me just past the Password prompt, then it says something to the
effect of sftp-server: command not found, could not connect.
krj
response 247 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 04:31 UTC 2004

While using party tonight, I kept getting disconnected; eventually the 
network connection appeared to go down solidly.  I dialed in direct
to enter this.  (It takes about 79 (?) seconds to log in on a direct
dial, too.)
charcat
response 248 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 06:33 UTC 2004


krj
response 249 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 17:14 UTC 2004

My telnet connections continue to be unstable, though I was able
to connect long enough to enter this...
marcvh
response 250 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 18:51 UTC 2004

My telnet is repeatedly being disconnected also.
mcnally
response 251 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:03 UTC 2004

  I was disconnected last night and unable to log in this morning.
xpandora
response 252 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 23:21 UTC 2004

I get a connection attempt to (TCP Port 6346) from 142.163.11.15 
whenever I try to log on.It also takes around 70-80 seconds for a 
prompt.
xpandora
response 253 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 23:23 UTC 2004

got the same connection attempt just as i hit the submit button on my 
previous post.
krj
response 254 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 02:43 UTC 2004

Connectivity has been exceptionally unstable for the last couple of 
hours.  Type five lines in party at mosst, and then log in again....
mcnally
response 255 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 04:09 UTC 2004

  re #252, 253:  That's very odd, but probably a coincidence..
  TCP port 6346 is used for the P2P file-sharing program gnutella
  and "!dig ptr 15.11.163.142.in-addr.arpa" shows the host that's
  trying to connect belongs to a Canadian ISP, sympatico.ca, probably
  a user in Newfoundland.

  > 15.11.163.142.in-addr.arpa.     86354   PTR     stj515.nf.sympatico.ca.

  I'll check my firewall logs tomorrow to see whether I'm getting the
  same behavior but I suspect I won't be.
tod
response 256 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 18:10 UTC 2004

These sporadic lag sessions that last more than a minute every 4 minutes SUCK.
People keep getting booted off.
keesan
response 257 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 18:18 UTC 2004

I got 2 minute lags three times while telnetted to another shell account and
writing a single mail, not a terribly long one.  More time down than up.
Telnetted from grex, I mean.  I can't telnet there directly from DOS, it does
not like my DOS telnet program.
aruba
response 258 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 20:34 UTC 2004

I got a lot of long pauses today too.
cmcgee
response 259 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 01:04 UTC 2004

I got lagged completely off three times today, while dialed in, and was unable
to complete a short email.

Then, just now, it took more than 3 minutes to get from the welcome screen
to the login while dialing in.
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