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krokus
response 234 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:55 UTC 2003

The putty screen is still clearing, right after motd.  Hence, I can't
ready motd, nor the new mail alert.
anderyn
response 235 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:05 UTC 2003

No mail here today either.
gelinas
response 236 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 00:11 UTC 2003

krokus, take a look at your termtype.  I've seen something like that with
vs100, I think it is.  I have to set my xterm's termtype to vt100 when
connecting to grex.
gull
response 237 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 00:52 UTC 2003

My screen has always cleared after login.
remmers
response 238 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 02:52 UTC 2003

One could make 'motd' the last line of one's .login or .profile.
krokus
response 239 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 03:37 UTC 2003

re 236
I can't change the emulation, as such. PuTTY only allows you to change
certain aspects of the intereaction.

re 238
That was something I tried, but motd is displayed by the system, along
with the new mail status, prior to the .login or .profile.  (I know,
it can be displayed again.)
russ
response 240 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 04:20 UTC 2003

Re #234:  I believe that some tset or other commands clear the screen;
check your .login file for things you don't need.
gull
response 241 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 05:13 UTC 2003

I have .hushlogin set to prevent the motd from being displayed during
login.  The reason is I have a script in my .profile that diffs the motd
against what it was last time I logged in and displays just the changes.
remmers
response 242 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 13:31 UTC 2003

By the way, are you aware that the motd displayed by the system
on login, and by the motd command, displays more than just the
contents of the file /etc/motd?
gull
response 243 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 17:27 UTC 2003

I wasn't.  Why is that?
carson
response 244 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 19:06 UTC 2003

(are you aware that, if using a ssh client, the system does *not*
display more than the contents of /etc/motd?)  ;)
remmers
response 245 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 21:25 UTC 2003

(Yeah, I recently became aware of that.  I'm hoping that's
a problem that magically goes away when Grex moves to new
hardware and a modern, well-supported OS.)

Re #243:  I imagine it's so that parts of the login message
can be generated automatically without collisions.  For
example, the birthday part of the motd is in
/usr/local/lib/motd.birthday.  This file is regenerated
daily by a program that scans the birthday database and
selects people whose birthday matches the current date.
It would be unfortunate if the program wrote directly to
/etc/motd at the same time somebody was editing /etc/motd
manually.
gull
response 246 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 13:41 UTC 2003

For what it's worth, yesterday morning my IDS at work logged what
appeared to be an attempt to exploit the sendmail vulnerability
mentioned earlier in this message.  Unfortunately I didn't have full
logging turned on, so I can't say whether it had any shellcode attached
or whether the goal was just to crash sendmail on vulnerable servers.
keesan
response 247 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 23:20 UTC 2003

I dialed in and was told (twice)  Unable to find your tty (ttyu1) in uutmp
file.  What does this mean and what stupid thing did I do that caused it?
Bbs works anyway.
russ
response 248 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 00:20 UTC 2003

Mail still cannot be sent from wwnet.com to Grex.

It appears that Grex is applying an unreasonably strict definition
of what constitutes "legitimate conduct".  Shutting off spammers
is one thing; cutting ourselves off from major ISPs is quite another.
goose
response 249 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 21 15:49 UTC 2003

The ssh daemon must have died.  I can telnet in, but not ssh.
jhudson
response 250 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 21 17:33 UTC 2003

$ ps -ax | grep sshd
 1045 ?  IW    0:05 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 1293 ?  S     1:44 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 2212 ?  IW    0:04 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 2763 ?  IW    0:05 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 3372 ?  IW    0:03 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 3569 ?  IW    0:02 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 3664 ?  IW    0:02 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 3989 ?  S     0:05 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
23951 ?  S     2:08 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
26686 ?  IW    0:26 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
27290 ?  IW    0:08 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
27652 ?  IW    0:12 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
28254 ?  IW    0:21 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
28434 ?  S     0:08 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
28706 ?  IW    0:09 /usr/local/libexec/sshd
 4292 qc S     0:00 grep sshd
$

It is running now.
tonster
response 251 of 251: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 03:49 UTC 2003

resp:250: not necessarily.  That output doesn't tell me if the main sshd
daemon is running or not.  All of those could very well just be user
sessions, and the main daemon could be dead so no new sessions could
start.
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