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Grex > Helpers > #144: Grex System Problems - Fall 2005 | |
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gull
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response 233 of 276:
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Dec 16 08:27 UTC 2005 |
I think the dialin lines are a valuable service for some people, and I'd
hate to see them go away entirely just yet. It will be the end of an
era, when they do.
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bhoward
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response 234 of 276:
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Dec 16 08:35 UTC 2005 |
Re#232
s/problem/probably/
s/Emjoy/Enjoy/
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tsty
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response 235 of 276:
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Dec 16 09:38 UTC 2005 |
what;s with the spam-spew lately?
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mary
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response 236 of 276:
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Dec 16 10:52 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, Bruce. Very nice.
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keesan
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response 237 of 276:
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Dec 16 14:32 UTC 2005 |
Worked perfectly, and nearly instantly.
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slynne
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response 238 of 276:
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Dec 16 14:33 UTC 2005 |
Bruce, you rock
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remmers
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response 239 of 276:
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Dec 16 16:50 UTC 2005 |
Excellent. Thanks, Bruce!
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albaugh
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response 240 of 276:
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Dec 16 19:12 UTC 2005 |
> If Grex is "NOT AN INTERNET PROVIDER" it seems that there is not much of a
> reason to keep dialup lines.
Your logic is backwards - *because* grex is not an ISP its primary purpose of
being a BBS must be supported via the ability to connect via direct dial.
It just so happens that because grex is good enough to support e-mail to/from
the internet that connection into grex from the internet is also supported
(as well as access to the internet from grex in the limited fashion of lynx).
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tod
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response 241 of 276:
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Dec 16 19:19 UTC 2005 |
What happens when modems and Internet get replaced with some form of wifi?
Will Grex oldskoolers still demand their 9600 baud in the name of charter
semantics for "BBS"?
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kingjon
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response 242 of 276:
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Dec 16 19:22 UTC 2005 |
I highly doubt that will ever happen unless Congress decides to get
into the ISP business and provide every citizen with whatever passes
for Internet then. An Internet connection costs money, while Grex
doesn't.
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albaugh
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response 243 of 276:
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Dec 16 19:36 UTC 2005 |
While direct dial access to a remote computer system remains viable, and many
people still use it / depend on it, then yes, for such people in the Ann Arbor
area, grex should still support it. A large percentage of people with
internet access connect to it via dial-up anyway, I'll warrant.
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marcvh
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response 244 of 276:
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Dec 16 19:41 UTC 2005 |
Roughly 65% of Internet users (in the US) have broadband, so yes, people
without it comprise a significant fraction.
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keesan
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response 245 of 276:
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Dec 16 20:59 UTC 2005 |
I heard 50%. Maybe you are counting people who use it at work.
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marcvh
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response 246 of 276:
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Dec 16 21:20 UTC 2005 |
Nope, just home users. Your 50% figure was accurate in August of 2004
but it's grown considerably since then, and is projected to break 70% by
February.
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keesan
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response 247 of 276:
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Dec 17 01:11 UTC 2005 |
We know two people living in subsidized housing with broadband. One also pays
for cable TV. No wonder there are so many enormous web pages around. Ebay
is not the worst of them.
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keesan
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response 248 of 276:
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Dec 17 01:44 UTC 2005 |
I really appreciate dialup access. No more frequent 1-2 min stalls, or
having what I type appear at random intervals, or unpredictable disconnects.
My 'ISP' (WCC) is not much better than grex as it used to be, this month.
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krj
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response 249 of 276:
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Dec 17 06:30 UTC 2005 |
Telnet daemon may be down. Telnet in is broken, SSH works.
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bhoward
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response 250 of 276:
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Dec 17 09:14 UTC 2005 |
Inetd got into a funny state where it was only listening to
telnet connections on the loopback interface and not on the
network card. This effectively shutdown telnet access to
grex for the last several hours.
SIGHUP-ing the inetd process was not sufficient. Had to
actually turn off telnet in /etc/inetd.conf, hup inetd,
then restore telnet in /etc/inetd.conf. This forced
inetd to cleanup and reset all its state relating to inbound
telnet connections.
telnet came back to life immediately.
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keesan
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response 251 of 276:
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Dec 18 03:39 UTC 2005 |
I think talk is broken. Can two staff members check it out? Or I can test
it soon with a staff member but some other grexer and I have not been able
to make it work. He types 'talk keesan' and I see at my prompt 'talk keesan'.
If I go into talk I get (on my half of the screen) talk
keesan@localhost.cyberspace.org . We are sending tels instead, in which I
am trying to teach him to use mail here.
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bhoward
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response 252 of 276:
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Dec 18 03:48 UTC 2005 |
Talk is fine. I think he is in the "menu" command environment and needs
to type !talk keesan instead of talk keesan.
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bhoward
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response 253 of 276:
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Dec 18 03:54 UTC 2005 |
(have attempted to communicate same to rpreston via tel)
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keesan
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response 254 of 276:
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Dec 18 04:03 UTC 2005 |
Me too, but he is not accepting tels. I think he is trying to learn pine.
So I wrote suggesting we try again some other day. Thanks. He read my plan
and thought we had some shared interests (such as stainless steel and Latin).
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mcnally
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response 255 of 276:
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Dec 18 05:08 UTC 2005 |
I use "talk" frequently. Unless it broke in the past 24 hours it's not
broken.
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glenda
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response 256 of 276:
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Dec 18 10:09 UTC 2005 |
Re #248: How is WCC your ISP? As far as I know, you are not student, staff,
or faculty there.
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keesan
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response 257 of 276:
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Dec 18 17:55 UTC 2005 |
Jim is a WCC student and we share his account. I read/write his emails.
A friend just offered to let me use an account that he is only keeping in
order to get emails at it. He has DSL too. I won't need it now just to do
emails, with grex working.
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