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janc
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response 232 of 335:
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Oct 28 02:03 UTC 2001 |
If Jamie had checked a week ago, he'd have found something like 48,000 users
in the Grex password file. We added a lot of new disk a few months ago, and
STeve got lazy about reaps. He did one just recently, eliminating lots of
idle accounts. If we had 29,000 users 18 months ago and 28,000 now, then that
may just mean that when you looked last time, it had been longer since STeve
reaped.
I don't think there is any useful data on the increase or decrease of usage
on Grex. My perception is that it has been pretty constant, without much
increase or decrease for a long time. I don't think we are declining. I also
don't think we are growing. STeve might have a better sense of this, since
he knows how many users there are at the end of a reap.
Hmm...I think I'll suggest to STeve that staff should report the number
of users at the end of a reap. This would give us a meaningful number to
track usage with over time.
Comparing Grex and M-Net usage is also pretty hard. The reap policies are
different.
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jp2
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response 233 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:11 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 234 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:37 UTC 2001 |
Grex's bank balance as reported in treasurer's reports:
March 31st, 2000: $5,672.88
September 30th, 2000: $5,943.92
So the balance has increased over the last 18 months, not decreased as Jamie
said in #228. Well, he said "shrunk overall", which is a rather vague term
coming from a member of the AMS. :)
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richard
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response 235 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:44 UTC 2001 |
Grex has benefited from being more stable than mnet the last few years
and having very little staff turnover. Most of grex's staff has been
around from years, and at least four or five are founders. M-net can't
say that-- does mnet have even one staff member current from even five
years ago?
But honestly sniping between the two boards just obscures the fact that
both places arent growing. Both mnet and grex have become stagnant and
nobody seems to have ideas on how to reinvent these places for the
current era. These unix boards are old fashioned and quaint, but both
mnet and grex must become fully web based in the years to come in order
to survive. Otherwise the core users will get older and drift off and
these places will either die or whither into oblivion. On both grex
and mnet are dozens of conferences that are ghost towns. Some that
havent been touched in years.
It is not enough to survive. Both m-net and grex should strive for
relevance and meaning in the new age. Give users reasons to come to
these sites.
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aruba
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response 236 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:47 UTC 2001 |
I agree with all of what Richard said, except the part about being "fully
web based".
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jp2
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response 237 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:47 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 238 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:49 UTC 2001 |
The Silly Hat Fund has grown slowly over time. I, myself, do have a cilly
hat. But I paid for it myself. :)
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jp2
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response 239 of 335:
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Oct 28 03:53 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 240 of 335:
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Oct 28 04:16 UTC 2001 |
We just started earning interest recently, so we haven't formed a policy
yet. I will ask the board, though, to just allow all interest to go into
the general fund, to make the bookkeeping easier.
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aruba
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response 241 of 335:
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Oct 28 04:16 UTC 2001 |
Oh, and demands will get you nowhere. You'll have to ask nicely.
Yes, you should buy a bowler, and go bowling in it.
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keesan
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response 242 of 335:
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Oct 29 01:29 UTC 2001 |
Mark, did you mean September 2001? (A few responses back).
How much of M-net's income is from membership dues? I know grex just got a
large anonymous donation, does M-Net get those too?
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jp2
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response 243 of 335:
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Oct 29 02:27 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 244 of 335:
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Oct 29 03:20 UTC 2001 |
Re #242: Yes, I did mean 2001. Sorry, and thanks for catching that.
Re #243: To tell you the truth, no one has ever asked that their dues go
to anything other than the general fund, so I can't give a confident
answer. The reason we always give for having dues is to pay the regular
bills like phone, rent, electricity, and internet connectivity. So I
think if I got a request like that, I would throw it to the board, and I
suspect the board would vote that dues have to go to the general fund.
But I could be wrong.
Of course, you can make a plain donation and earmark the money for
whatever you want.
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jp2
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response 245 of 335:
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Oct 29 04:26 UTC 2001 |
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scott
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response 246 of 335:
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Oct 29 13:08 UTC 2001 |
Re 243:
You *never* bowl, Jamie? But what if Grex decides that the best way to raise
money would be a Grex Board Bowl-a-thon? Your refusal to bowl could cause
Grex to run out of money and close up shop.
Therefore, I must recommend that all voting members vote *against* jp2, if
in fact he isn't disqualified for other reasons first.
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davel
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response 247 of 335:
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Oct 29 13:57 UTC 2001 |
I also never bowl, & would have to demand that any proposed Bowl-a-thon be
put up to a member vote, so that I could vote against it.
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jp2
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response 248 of 335:
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Oct 29 16:13 UTC 2001 |
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janc
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response 249 of 335:
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Oct 30 02:48 UTC 2001 |
I don't know. I think we could raise a lot of money selling "heckling passes"
to a Bowl-a-thon featuring non-bowling bowlers.
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jp2
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response 250 of 335:
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Oct 30 02:52 UTC 2001 |
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eeyore
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response 251 of 335:
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Oct 30 04:42 UTC 2001 |
You know, I wonder if we should start taking this idea to Syl....:)
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krj
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response 252 of 335:
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Oct 30 18:22 UTC 2001 |
I was ruminating this morning about the possibility of a member proposal
to bar Jamie from membership in Grex, on the grounds that his DMCA
threats demonstrate that he does not support the peacable exchange
of information and ideas, as declared in the Preamble and the Membership
sections of the bylaws. Any interest?
So far it's just a thought.
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pthomas
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response 253 of 335:
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Oct 30 18:24 UTC 2001 |
Yeah, banning people from membership because of their political views
_really_ supports the "peaceable exchange of ideas." Sounds more Stalinist
than anything to me.
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jp2
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response 254 of 335:
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Oct 30 18:26 UTC 2001 |
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md
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response 255 of 335:
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Oct 30 18:26 UTC 2001 |
No, he said "threats," not "political views." Maybe you were standing
too far away.
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pthomas
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response 256 of 335:
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Oct 30 18:28 UTC 2001 |
So it's to become the official policy of Grex that people who assert their
rights under Federal law are not welcome?
I assume you'll be making sure women and minorities are also barred from
membership.
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