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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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cross
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response 230 of 870:
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Jan 5 20:37 UTC 2005 |
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rcurl
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response 231 of 870:
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Jan 5 20:45 UTC 2005 |
Thanks. That did it. Now I get the message
mesg: Unable to find your tty (ttyq5) in utmp file
Is that good or bad or indifferent?
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gelinas
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response 232 of 870:
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Jan 5 20:49 UTC 2005 |
It means that the settings allowing (or disallowing) tels won't be available.
We may need to recompile mesg.
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keesan
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response 233 of 870:
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Jan 5 20:53 UTC 2005 |
Is this related to the problem of talk not working? Tels work for me.
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gelinas
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response 234 of 870:
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Jan 5 20:54 UTC 2005 |
I don't know; I've not tried talk.
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gelinas
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response 235 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:00 UTC 2005 |
No, the problem is that talk is not suid. I don't have time to work on
this right now.
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keesan
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response 236 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:00 UTC 2005 |
I get the same error message trying to talk to people whether or not they are
logged in - try a talk keesan (I am logged in) or a talk jdeigert. Something
about sockets. Presumably a file in the wrong place or some limit set wrong.
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keesan
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response 237 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:01 UTC 2005 |
235 slipped in. Does 'not suid' mean permissions for talk need to be
changed? I will tell people to email me until talk works again.
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other
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response 238 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:15 UTC 2005 |
Sort of. The program permissions determine who can run it, but what
needs changing is what permissions the program can use to run the other
processes it needs (like those that allow non-members to use talk to
connect to a non-Grex-local machine).
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twenex
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response 239 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:26 UTC 2005 |
I'm not sure if colors will be at all useful in bbs; but most uses them. w3m
does, too, but I don't know if we have that installed. I'll check that, and
setting the terminal to ansi, now.
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mfp
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response 240 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:28 UTC 2005 |
http://www.jewsforjoosuz.org/
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twenex
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response 241 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:38 UTC 2005 |
Setting the terminal to ansi worked a treat; thanks!
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mfp
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response 242 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:40 UTC 2005 |
http://www.jewsforjesus.org/
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aruba
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response 243 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:50 UTC 2005 |
I make heavy use of colors in my Picospan iseps and rseps.
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twenex
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response 244 of 870:
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Jan 5 21:53 UTC 2005 |
Hmm, I wonder what they are.
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mfp
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response 245 of 870:
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Jan 5 22:15 UTC 2005 |
http://www.jewsforjesus.org/
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aruba
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response 246 of 870:
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Jan 5 22:55 UTC 2005 |
You can see them in ~aruba/.cfonce if you'd like. My twitfilter also
highlights responses from cetain people by putting them in a different
color.
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gelinas
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response 247 of 870:
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Jan 5 23:11 UTC 2005 |
You change that every time someone whens the letter game, Mark? cool. :)
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twenex
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response 248 of 870:
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Jan 5 23:17 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, mark.
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aruba
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response 249 of 870:
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Jan 6 00:54 UTC 2005 |
Re #247: I confess I often fall behind. But yes, I have a command to
define a command to print out the letter.match# file of the person who is
"it" in each of the games.
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gelinas
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response 250 of 870:
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Jan 6 02:06 UTC 2005 |
I'd noticed that Pine creates debug files on another system I use, so I asked
the sysadmins about it. They hadn't done anything special. They also
reported that it behaved similarly on another of their systems. So the
creation of these files appears to be a decision by the Pine developers.
I added an alias for pine to my list of aliases some time back, because I
want to go directly to the index of messages, not the "main" screen. I've
now modified that alias to turn off the debug files:
alias pine 'pine -d 0 -i'
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cross
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response 251 of 870:
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Jan 6 02:40 UTC 2005 |
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drew
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response 252 of 870:
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Jan 6 07:25 UTC 2005 |
Pine and BBS response still do not work when dialed in direct;
and sz is still missing.
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kentn
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response 253 of 870:
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Jan 6 13:23 UTC 2005 |
Does /usr/local/bin/lsz work for you instead?
I noticed that there is an sb link in /usr/local/bin/ that points to a
non-existent file in grex-scripts. That might confuse some people.
Would it make sense to link sb to lsb, sz to lsz, etc?
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twenex
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response 254 of 870:
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Jan 6 14:35 UTC 2005 |
<twenex muscles in>
Generally speaking, I would advise against linking new versions of programs
(in the sense that vim is a new version of vi, gnu tar a new version of tar)
to the names of the old ones unless the new version provides functionality as
near as dammit identical to the old one when called as such.
(On a related note: a lot of "easy to use" Linux systems alias "cp" to "cp -i",
"rm" to "rm -i", and so on. If this applies to any grexer, I would advise them
to realias them back to their default "values". Not doing so runs the risk of
coming to a system where they are NOT aliased and accidentally deleting
crucial files because you expected the system to ask you if you /really/ wanted
to do that, but it didn't. At first I used to disdain aliases for this reason,
but then I hit upon the following strategy:
Say I type "ls -F" often enough that it becomes a pain to have to type it all
the time, especially since i never use "ls" on its own. So I create an alias
based on ls which gives a clue as to the extra flags, such as "lsf". That's
a simple example, but with longer commands it could be quite useful.
Unless you know your system well, it's a pain to have to find the file where
the distributors have aliased all the commands, and you run the risk of having
to do it again when you upgrade. So just type, for example:
alias ls="/path/to/ls"
in whatever .profile or .login file your shell uses (the csh syntax might
actually be a little different). This forces the shell to look for the command
instead of replacing its behaviour with a new one. If you don't want to do
this for all the systems and/or account you use, then just do it for root on
those systems you have root access to.
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