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rcurl
response 228 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 17:09 UTC 2003

AAA gave us the NADAguides.com value for our car that got totaled - and
then also reimbursed us for our deductible after they pried that out
of the at-fault driver. This was pretty fair - especially since we had
paid less than the NADA value for the car at the time of purchase. 
tod
response 229 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 18:23 UTC 2003

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mcnally
response 230 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 19:32 UTC 2003

  That can be pretty annoying.
jep
response 231 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 19:40 UTC 2003

NADAguides.com says my Taurus is worth about $1800.  If AAA gives me 
that (minus my deductable) I will be very pleased.  When I totalled my 
Topaz, I got about $600, I think, and that was after they waived the 
deductable.

The body shop where I had my car towed said it will almost surely be 
totalled because an airbag, itself, costs around $1500 to replace.

re resp:226: I tried to dispute about the Topaz, but got nowhere at 
all.  I was plenty persistent but it did no good.  I thought I was 
supposed to get enough to replace the car with a comparable one.  It's 
not easy to find a car for $600 that one would be willing to drive.
gull
response 232 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 20:52 UTC 2003

It's not easy for $1800, either.
other
response 233 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 22:46 UTC 2003

I have a slipped disc (l3-l4), a ruptured disc (l4-l5) and bone 
damage to the vertebra (l5).

What's a lumbar-lami?  Fusion of vertebrae?
rcurl
response 234 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 02:02 UTC 2003

http://www.esurgeon.com/scripts/content/treatmentoptions/back-decompressive
lum
barlaminectomy.html
other
response 235 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 02:36 UTC 2003

Thanks, all.  Fortunately, though I have regular back pain and 
cannot stand up for twenty minutes at a time without considerable 
discomfort, I do not have leg pain or numbness.  Yet.
bru
response 236 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 04:10 UTC 2003

jep, what happened to the deer?  Was it killed or did it run away?  If killed,
did you get to keep it for processing?
michaela
response 237 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 10:08 UTC 2003

IBB I've had severe insomnia for a week. I'm about to try melatonin since the
usual stuff is only keeping me asleep for three hours. :( This is really
starting to aggravate me.
tsty
response 238 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 10:51 UTC 2003

damn, other ... taht really sucks. was tehre some incident in the past
that mght ahve contributed to your current grief? 
  
i have a littel numbness in middle-toes, now and then. nothing in my
past, though, that would indicate a current problem.
jep
response 239 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 13:52 UTC 2003

re resp:236: Bruce, the deer was killed.  Someone stopped to see if I 
was all right, then politely asked me if I minded if he took it.  I let 
him take it and he came back with his sister, and they took it away.  I 
don't know how to process a deer and also, since I live in an 
apartment, wouldn't have any place to store the meat anyway.
edina
response 240 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 14:28 UTC 2003

Yum, venison.  I do love venison.
gull
response 241 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 15:09 UTC 2003

Bumper-tenderized!

The old beater Volvo I recently bought hit a deer a few weeks before I
bought it.  The damage was limited to a smashed right front turn signal,
which the previous owner replaced before selling me the car.
keesan
response 242 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 15:12 UTC 2003

The deer was not damaged?
gull
response 243 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 16:37 UTC 2003

It ran off, so apparently not seriously.
aruba
response 244 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 16:49 UTC 2003

John - I've always wondered what it would be like to be in an accident where
the airbag opens.  Do you think it helped prevent you from being hurt? 
Could you see over it, and could you still steer?  (My car predates airbags,
so forgive me if these are dumb questions.)
gull
response 245 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 16:56 UTC 2003

I've never been in an accident with airbag deployment, but from what I've
heard they don't stay inflated like in sitcoms.  They inflate, and almost
immediately deflate through vents in the bag.

I'm curious about John's experiences too, though.
bru
response 246 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 17:21 UTC 2003

there is a place outside of clinton you used to be able to take the deer to
and they would process it for you for a fee.
jep
response 247 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 18:45 UTC 2003

About the airbag... no, it didn't do me any good.  I did get a slight 
welt, about 4 inches long and resembling a scratch, from the airbag 
deploying.  My 7 year old, sitting in the front seat next to me, was 
completely uninjured.

The airbag went off with a "bang" and a little bit of smoke, and 
afterward, briefly made me think the car was on fire.  The police told 
me that 90% of reported car fires in accidents are from the airbag 
deploying and are not really fires.  I didn't realize the airbag had 
gone off until I had the car stopped.  It was later that I sorted out 
my impressions of the accident and tied the "bang" sound to the 
airbag.  Accidents are confusing because a lot of unfamiliar things are 
happening all at once.  (The crash, the fate of the deer, the airbag 
going off, making sure my kid and I were all right, the damage to the 
car, making sure we got out of the road so we wouldn't get hit by 
another car, etc.)

The airbag inflated, deflated, and then hung from the center of the 
steering wheel.  It was not in the way of me steering.  It definitely 
wasn't an obstruction for me seeing out of the car.

If I make it to where the car is stored right now before they take it 
away, I'll try to take a few pictures so you can see what the airbag 
looks like after it was deployed.
jep
response 248 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 19:20 UTC 2003

I have not been a believer in air bags in the past, and am not one now 
after my experience of Tuesday night.

I think driver-side air bags are enough of a danger to enough people 
that they should not be standard equipment on vehicles.  If I were 
given the choice, were I to buy a new car, I'd choose to not have an 
airbag.

Passenger side air bags *kill* children.  I definitely don't want a 
safety device on my car which might kill my son.  If I get a newer car, 
I'll be trying to find someone who can disable the passenger side 
airbag for me.  I'd prefer not to get a car that new.

On my old car, the air bag shouldn't have gone off.  A newer car has 
sensors which would have prevented the air bag from deploying for that 
type of accident.  How are those sensors going to work on present-day 
new cars when they're 10 or 15 years old?  I wouldn't bet on them 
working very well.

Once the air bag goes off, the car is essentially ruined.  The assessor 
told me it costs $1500 just to replace the airbag, once it's gone off.  
Insurance companies typically total the car, even cars only a couple of 
years old, *just* because the airbag went off, according to the man who 
originally towed my car.
happyboy
response 249 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 19:27 UTC 2003

did you have those *deer whistles* on your bumper?

they cost about 7 bucks (no pun intended)
tod
response 250 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 19:49 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 251 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 20:33 UTC 2003

"Deer whistles" have been tested, and they do not work to prevent car-deer
collisions.

It has been shown from analyses of accidents that air bags save many more
lives than they cost. Children that are so young they might be injured by
an air bag should NOT be seated in the front seat. (I think I also read
that air bags are being given smaller charges to compromise on the chances
of injury by the accident vs by the airbag, but of course older airbags
are not being recalled.) 

tod
response 252 of 413: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 20:59 UTC 2003

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